Author Topic: WTF is with china censoring american stuff? (Read 5033 times)

Googalini · October 10, 2019, 08:01:19 PM

This is your brain on socialist noodles

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Master Matthew� · October 10, 2019, 10:18:39 PM

Quote from: Renderman In A Bowl on October 10, 2019, 07:38:05 PM

forget off nerd

Quote from: Nigel The Protagonist on October 10, 2019, 07:40:58 PM

forget off contrarian

It's not contrarianism or being nerdy.

Linux is better than windows in every way

Linux boots up exponentially faster than windows.
Linux has better security than windows.
Linux is open source, windows isn't.
Linux Distributions have options to suit your needs and preferences, windows doesn't.
Linux runs faster than windows.
Linux runs games better windows.
Linux costs less than windows, free.

And most relevant to the conversation, open source projects like Linux can't hold allegiance to countries or corporations, if they do a fork will take their place.

~~Linux does what Windon't~~
holy stuff, that's cheesy

TheABELBOTO · October 10, 2019, 10:55:05 PM

I regret to inform everyone that Lord Antonio the Third was found dead with several self inflicted gunshot wounds to the back of the head. We will greatly miss him and wish he made wiser life choices.

gameboy19 · October 11, 2019, 04:02:16 AM

Quote from: Goth77 on October 10, 2019, 01:18:20 PM

it's a communist nation what do you expect

This.

phflack · October 11, 2019, 06:05:56 AM

Quote from: Master Matthew� on October 10, 2019, 10:18:39 PM

Linux is better than windows in every way

not in every way
not all programs that run on windows can run on linux easily
i do prefer linux servers over windows servers though

Master Matthew� · October 11, 2019, 07:57:24 AM

Quote from: phflack on October 11, 2019, 06:05:56 AM

not in every way
not all programs that run on windows can run on linux easily
i do prefer linux servers over windows servers though

Eh, for most people it will do.

If you're a content creator you're basically SOL for now. And gaming isn't perfect in terms of compability, but usually games run better. But any game with easy anti-cheat or Battleye is currently waiting for that proton inevitable update.

But basically, ProtonDB can show you what games run on proton, how well and even what games are Linux native.

However, open source projects can never sell their soul to China.

Master Matthew� · October 11, 2019, 10:12:11 AM

Okay guys, so technically, according to this video: https://youtu.be/d1yUbXKbHGg

And the tweet referenced inside, blizzard infers that china is "their country".

I'm willing to accept that this means blizzard, as a corporation is rejecting it's american cizenship, atleast in a metaphorical sense since corporations can't actually be citizens.

TL:DR theyre more Chinese (CCP) than American now, twisted and evil.

Aide33 · October 11, 2019, 01:21:08 PM

MM is the right

as much as I abhor his political views I commend him for being intellectually consistent sometimes

also lol at everyone in this thread going "china is communist because they said so" and simultaneously saying "Antifa are the real fascists, their name is wrong" as if these aren't two solid contradicting points

you guys have to realize that you cant just take stuff for granted and run with the self-described names for things and do a bit of nuanced brown townysis to describe things that are as complicated as a government or political movements. if you don't you will come to bbrown town conclusions like "North Korea is actually democratic because they call themselves the democratic people's republic of korea"

Aide33 · October 11, 2019, 01:33:20 PM

Quote from: Renderman In A Bowl on October 10, 2019, 07:54:00 PM

brother i�ve read enough theory to understand that while china is a revisionist marxist government, it�s still socialist in that they give free healthcare, free education, and various other social programs designed to be socialist. Just because it has a market doesn�t mean it�s not socialist as there are various forms of handicapation that has markets in it, two ideologies being dengism and market socialism.

also: big government programs are not socialism

socialism is literally defined in every single place as a worker controller(planned) economy and worker controller corporations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_economic_reform

the chinese literally de-collectivized most industries and handed it to private business owners or the government. so these days you have a system of private corporations (no workplace democracy/no workers voting for their CEO) that are either owned by the government or a private individual

this is a form of state capitalism because the proletariat don't have control over the means of production, it's purely run by an undemocratic goverment or some random rich guy

Quote from: above link

The Communist Party authorities carried out the market reforms in two stages. The first stage, in the late 1970s and early 1980s, involved the de-collectivization of agriculture, the opening up of the country to foreign investment, and permission for entrepreneurs to start businesses. However, most industry remained state-owned. The second stage of reform, in the late 1980s and 1990s, involved the privatization and contracting out of much state-owned industry and the lifting of price controls, protectionist policies, and regulations, although state monopolies in sectors such as banking and petroleum remained. The private sector grew remarkably, accounting for as much as 70 percent of China's gross domestic product by 2005.[5] From 1978 until 2013, unprecedented growth occurred, with the economy increasing by 9.5% a year. The conservative Hu Jintao's administration regulated and controlled the economy more heavily after 2005, reversing some reforms.[6]

if you still think it's "socialist" after reading that article i pity your understanding of any political theory, since it's an incredibly nuanced topic and simply saying "big government = socialism" is the stupidest thing to say

Deus Ex · October 11, 2019, 02:03:21 PM

Quote from: Aide33 on October 11, 2019, 01:21:08 PM

also lol at everyone in this thread going "china is communist because they said so" and simultaneously saying "Antifa are the real fascists, their name is wrong" as if these aren't two solid contradicting points

you guys have to realize that you cant just take stuff for granted and run with the self-described names for things and do a bit of nuanced brown townysis to describe things that are as complicated as a government or political movements. if you don't you will come to bbrown town conclusions like "North Korea is actually democratic because they call themselves the democratic people's republic of korea"

??? But China still continues socialist/communist principles to this day? What are you even talking about

JumboMuffin · October 11, 2019, 03:27:05 PM

Quote from: Goth77 on October 10, 2019, 01:18:20 PM

it's a communist nation what do you expect

authoritarian state capitalism isn't communism, communism is an ideology where there are no borders and no currency you bonehead

JumboMuffin · October 11, 2019, 03:27:32 PM

COMUNISM IS WEN GOVERMENT DO FINGS.........

JumboMuffin · October 11, 2019, 03:28:39 PM

i am a proud republican (not a antifa...........) (im a patritot.) i support small government apart from when it comes to armies, policing, surveillance and locking up immigrant children lol.. im proud to be an amierican!.

King T�ny · October 11, 2019, 03:30:23 PM

china aint small

JumboMuffin · October 11, 2019, 03:31:15 PM

i cant believe china is undermining hong kong's sovereignty, my proud nation of america never would do that to cuba, venezuela, chile, vietnam, north korea, south korea, australia, greece, laos, brazil, afghanistan, bolivia, indonesia, iran, egypt and the many other nations. so many russian bots trying to meddle with our elections in our good nation of the usa and a