again, a government that says they are "socialist with chinese characteristics" but has privately owned businesses out the wazoo and a free-ish market isn't socialist at all
Uh no, there are a few forms of socialism that involve markets. They’re revisionist ofc but still defined socialist for whatever reason. I saw your other post and no, i didn’t intend for my post to be meant as “lol big government=socialist” as that’s loving brain dead logic right there. Anyways the whole socialist process involves using state capitalism to force a country to have an industry in order to transition through socialism. This happened before with the NEP with the soviet union. Dismissing a socialist leaning country as “state capitalist” is quite small brained as I’ve read reports saying that China intends to fully go socialist by 2050 iirc. I barely look at socialist theory and literature enough to have a proper debate but that’s all i have.