the trans ideology discussion megathread.

[King Tøny]

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[King Tøny]

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[Geyser]

You're soo close to seeing how harmful ideology can radicalize vulnerable people into terrible acts. I'm not going to attack your beliefs, nor William's. All I'll do is point out there are thousands of games, hundreds of thousands, many with forums and much larger communities.

Take a moment for self-reflection. Perhaps the reason hate-speech exists as a concept is because some people literally can't take the joke and terrible things can happen. Obviously that doesn't make you or anyone else in the blockland forum responsible for the behavior of a murderer.

Like you've said, blockland is an echo chamber. It's not a coincidence that he was a large member of this community. You'll notice I'm not taking a political stance. That is because a) my political beliefs are well aligned with partisan politics and b) the political stance doesn't actually matter. It would be no different if you were a communist and sephiroth was a trans person who shot up a school (a thing that happened in my city, actually)

Both you and he gobble up the same flavors of propaganda, so it's no surprise people lump y'all together. We all eat propaganda at some point, but it's rare I get to see effects described in literature about neo-conservative political violence just directly exhibited.

For example, you say a lot of sensible things. Classic common sense talking points. It's one of the most controversial issues in the US. IIRC, about 80% of anti-trans videos, commercials, and articles (the classic propaganda vectors) are directly funded by oil and coal companies. That's a funny coincidence...
common sense is one of the highest conversion rates to violence from ideology. As a derivative of gay bashing, trans violence is very common, though not very visible as the absolute number of transgender people is like 1% of the population.

I guess my question is: did one of the people you knew and were friends with becoming so radicalized that he committed an act of terrorism change your relationship with your political views or how you express them?

[King Tøny]

It goes both ways of the political mental illness spectrum.

The key point here is these people that go on shooting sprees are mentally ill and they'll do it no matter what political belief they have

[King Tøny]

I guess my question is: did one of the people you knew and were friends

Wasn't friends with him. Unless you count having him as a "steam friend" but I had over 500 steam friends at the time and I talked to none of them.

were friends with becoming so radicalized that he committed an act of terrorism change your relationship with your political views or how you express them?

Let me answer this question with another question.

When a trans person commits an act of terrorism in the name of LGBT activism would that change your political view or how you express them?

[King Tøny]

I don't hate gays/trans I hate their handicapped ideology, unfortunately the majority of them making it their personality. By being gay/trans that doesn't mean you have to blindly join the club.

Now I don't know what you think my political beliefs are. I believe in more common sense.

Just because I believe letting in unvetted illegals into the country is a bad thing that doesn't mean I am a national socialist and I want to kill them either. (kicking them out is the moderate option)

Sephiroth (forget you) was a neo national socialist, I am not a national socialist/neo-national socialist.

[King Tøny]

also did you use chatgpt to write all that?

[Dr.Block]

You are not cool enough to take credit for the greatest psycho we ever had. If anything, he groomed you. Loser.

[King Tøny]

You are not cool enough to take credit for the greatest psycho we ever had. If anything, he groomed you. Loser.

Who the forget said I'm taking credit for anything.

I'm tired of people thinking I had anything to do with it

The FBI did contact people he knew over blockland. I wasn't one of those people I had no part in this

[Geyser]

So close! You even pointed out that political violence can come from radicalized individuals of any political background! You're so close to realizing you're an extremist but not a radical.
You believe the same things, just not combined with violence. You're effectively one stressor away from being radicalized. Radicalized individuals can do all kinds of crazy stuff, like mass violence or targeted violence. The existence of LGBT radicals does not make me think the government should regulate people's gender any more than the overwhelming majority of shooters being white men make me think being white should be illegal. If the national socialists AND the communists AND the tribals AND the environmentalists AND the religious groups  all being radicalized, the issue isn't what you believe anymore. It's how you believe it, and how vulnerable you are to being radicalized, that are important.

Small, tight knit cells are the ideal target for radicalization. If I'm Iran, or Russia (the two countries that do the most political manipulation of the west), it's way cheaper to post crazy stuff in a forum and radicalize someone like sephiroth than it is to send some kind of operator to do the same amount of harm.

People like you are indeed very necessary to create people like sephiroth. You help people like him feel kike their ideas are normal. You are an intentional fixture of an echo chamber designed to divide and destroy. It's so easy. All I have to do is tell you the spooky scary gays are gonna eat your babies, and you'll think and talk about it for years for me. Then, I go tell a trans person that all the Christians want them dead, and do the same thing to them.

I literally pointed out that you say a lot of fossil fuel funded propaganda, and you literally posted a picture of OPEC funded propaganda. Gay and trans people make up less of the population than psychopaths. Think lil man...

[foulprairiedog]

Think lil man...

at this rate i think he may be incapable of doing so. bro is in too deep: any kind of critical thinking causes him physical pain by triggering cognitive dissonance. biggest amygdala on the forums award

[King Tøny]

So close! You even pointed out that political violence can come from radicalized individuals of any political background! You're so close to realizing you're an extremist but not a radical.
You believe the same things, just not combined with violence. You're effectively one stressor away from being radicalized. Radicalized individuals can do all kinds of crazy stuff, like mass violence or targeted violence. The existence of LGBT radicals does not make me think the government should regulate people's gender any more than the overwhelming majority of shooters being white men make me think being white should be illegal. If the national socialists AND the communists AND the tribals AND the environmentalists AND the religious groups  all being radicalized, the issue isn't what you believe anymore. It's how you believe it, and how vulnerable you are to being radicalized, that are important.

Small, tight knit cells are the ideal target for radicalization. If I'm Iran, or Russia (the two countries that do the most political manipulation of the west), it's way cheaper to post crazy stuff in a forum and radicalize someone like sephiroth than it is to send some kind of operator to do the same amount of harm.

People like you are indeed very necessary to create people like sephiroth. You help people like him feel kike their ideas are normal. You are an intentional fixture of an echo chamber designed to divide and destroy. It's so easy. All I have to do is tell you the spooky scary gays are gonna eat your babies, and you'll think and talk about it for years for me. Then, I go tell a trans person that all the Christians want them dead, and do the same thing to them.

I literally pointed out that you say a lot of fossil fuel funded propaganda, and you literally posted a picture of OPEC funded propaganda. Gay and trans people make up less of the population than psychopaths. Think lil man...

I'm not reading all this.

[King Tøny]

I don't think you understand per capita

trans may be a small percent of the population but their numbers at performing mass shootings is going up drastically at a number disprortionate to their population

just like how trans Self Delete rate is over 40% lmao They already 1% of the population that's going to turn them into .6% real quick.

[King Tøny]

Also who even are you, you literally just started posting a few loving days ago

you turned a simple AMA into a full length debate about handicapped mentally insane people

[King Tøny]

You believe the same things

Like what?

Do tell me, random internet person that just rejoined the forums after 10 years and didn't start posting till a few weeks ago with long winded huge paragraphs you can write a book with.

Was suppose to be a simple AMA, not a book writing contest.