Is there life after death?

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It is hard to grasp for many reasons. One being that in total darkness, humans must travel blind. It may be that our bodies become lifeless after death, nothing may happen. It is also a possibility, that our brain can attempt to save our bodies, by forcing us into a dream.
Forcing us into a dream when we got stabbed and our heart ripped out I wouldn't think magically make the organs work if they're physically incapable of.

However, everything we say, even if it has the most logic behind it. And the most common sense. It cannot be proved. No one can die, then come back to life saying "Ohai, this is what happens"
Lol, what if they can come back to life, but the Grim Reaper(yes lol, just using as example) force them to not say anything, and if they do, he just kills them (again) and rewinds time to when they're dead and does not let them. Please do not consider me believing this or try to disprove it. This part was for lulz.

However, As IbanZ theory is possibly the most correct. No theory can be proven. Mine, his, no ones. However, I would like to tell IbanZ that we still have yet to scratch the surface on bodies, life, and death. Thus, That puts all of our theories at even ground.
That's just saying we should all give up.

forget you.

First, please post logic behind your reasoning, otherwist its not a valid argument. Just a flame.

And the forget You is a perfect example of what I am getting at after that quote. Please, make a discovery, an actual discovery, accepted by scientists world wide to put one theory ahead.

We are kids. We have no impact. We can only talk. Give up looking for now, nothing will happen. Just talk about what you think.


NINJA EDIT - Sure, our brain cannot live without other organs. However, the brain has a fail safe. Science cannot explain it yet, but there is a small electrical charge that lasts in our brain months after we die. I currently am doing some research on that.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2008, 02:58:10 AM by Cogizio »

Wtf, you think I didn't put logic behind my reasoning? All I said was that putting us into a dream doesn't change what's PHYSICALLY happening to us.

Unless the dream you're talking about is the whole "my life just flashed in my eyes", then it could be the brain telling yourself to go, "SEE HOW YOU LIVED THIS LIFE? YOU WANNA DIE FOR NOTHING? LIKE HELL I'M GOING TO LOSE! FIND A WAY TO GET OUT OF THIS forgetER!!" Which would make the person go "k" and find a way to get out of it.

The forget you is the part that is saying we should all give up, yes, we should all just stop thinking and trying to put logical statements to things we don't know about.

That's just annoying, who cares if we might not make a difference, but we will gather reasoning skills behind this and at least believe something that makes more sense instead of some bullstuff.

There will be cake after you die  :cookieMonster:

You have no consciousness before you were born, you didn't exist yet. If there is no afterlife you would return to that exact same state. So don't worry because you wouldn't be aware you were dead anyway.

Wtf, you think I didn't put logic behind my reasoning? All I said was that putting us into a dream doesn't change what's PHYSICALLY happening to us.

Unless the dream you're talking about is the whole "my life just flashed in my eyes", then it could be the brain telling yourself to go, "SEE HOW YOU LIVED THIS LIFE? YOU WANNA DIE FOR NOTHING? LIKE HELL I'M GOING TO LOSE! FIND A WAY TO GET OUT OF THIS forgetER!!" Which would make the person go "k" and find a way to get out of it.

The forget you is the part that is saying we should all give up, yes, we should all just stop thinking and trying to put logical statements to things we don't know about.

That's just annoying, who cares if we might not make a difference, but we will gather reasoning skills behind this and at least believe something that makes more sense instead of some bullstuff.


Cussing while trying to reason is not reasoning. How can you pick up on reasoning skills over the internet? Its almost hard to. Sure, you learn what to say, but you will fail how to execute it.

there is a small electrical charge that lasts in our brain months after we die.

In that case, what about people who have their brain "smashed" or were shot through the head?

And what happens after that month is over?

Either way, it doesn't prove the existence of an afterlife.

My teacher and a few classmates were discussing something like this in one of my classes. Supposedly there is a specific amount of matter that leaves the body after death, the same amount for everyone, maybe everything. Scientists don't know what it is, but some believe it is the soul. I don't exactly remember everything they said. This was also after everything else was released from the body on death.

My teacher and a few classmates were discussing something like this in one of my classes. Supposedly there is a specific amount of matter that leaves the body after death, the same amount for everyone, maybe everything. Scientists don't know what it is, but some believe it is the soul. I don't exactly remember everything they said. This was also after everything else was released from the body on death.
The matter thing is false. I read an article yesterday about the scientific studies of what happens after you die and one of the things they listed was how people attempted to measure the soul. They deemed this study inconclusive due to a variety of reasons, mainly that all of the people who did the study were not only not scientists, but the equipment they were using was used to measure livestock and bolts of raw cloth. Also, you have to take into consideration a variety of material leaves the body on death.

Hard to understand expaination of everything
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement_problem

the solution is to stop measuring(Self Delete).

Go Charles Manson, he's the real winner!  :cookieMonster:

My god (no pun intended) IBanZ! I've been reading some of the thing's he's been saying, and all I can say is this:

Do you realize that what you're saying can't be proven? You continually discredit anything anyone suggests in such a harsh term!  Did it ever occur to you that there is possibility? Did it ever occur to you that for all we know there just may be that 'God' person, and though heaven and hell might not exist (they may do), there are other alternatives? But no, you constantly come in with this emo-atheist perspective all whiny: "why can't you guys just grasp the fact that there's nothing after death" oh well boo-hoo tickle me emo, go listen to some MCR. Now I my self am an agnostic, hell you could even go so far as say an atheist, but whether or not I believe in God is one thing, the fact that I like to open my horizons a little at the chance of something better than just 'death' is not only a comforting thing, but because it's pretty neat to listen to others opinions and theories. But you and your close minded bitching are constantly attacking people's idea's. Ok, we've heard what you have to say, but that doesn't mean that's the only thing there is about it. Now why don't you just shut the forget up and go cut yourself somewhere else. You're idea has been said, we thank you for it, now leave.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement_problem
Nothing is definitional without a measurement, Our species measured the universe to have no god.  The end. If there was a god then the above link would be compleat bullstuff and we would have huge pissed on icebergs saying god was here because god is apparently male. (I say if there was a god it is a female if anything).

That was a link relating to quantum physics? What does that have anything to do with the existence of god?

"The measurement problem is the key set of questions that every interpretation of quantum mechanics must address. The wavefunction in quantum mechanics evolves according to the Schrödinger equation into a linear superposition of different states, but the actual measurements always find the physical system in a definite state. Any future evolution is based on the state the system was discovered to be in when the measurement was made, meaning that the measurement "did something" to the process under examination. Whatever that "something" may be does not appear to be explained by the basic theory."

Yeah I'm pretty sure that's just quantum physics.