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Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Chicken
19 (29.2%)
Egg
24 (36.9%)
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Although I doubt we were created from Apes, I'm sure God's days are longer then ours, and evolution does exist. Just not the apes to humans form.

No I'm not. Try to prove evolution.


Fossil Record - millions of specimens have been found each slightly different from one another and forming a pattern over periods of millions of years

Carbon Dating - The technology has not only proven that the earth is much older than creationists claim it to be, but also that the fossils mentioned above do correlate to distinct time periods.



By nature, religion typically cannot be disputed for it uses circular reasoning. Any odd occurrences or illogical happenings are simply part of "god's plan". Acts that defy all the natural laws we know and obey are seemingly none-existent in the face of this supposed omnipotent being.

What really matters, is the choice you make. Is it wiser to believe in something back by evidence and logic? or do you wish to put your faith in the words of a book and the words of a priest?

It's understandable if you choose the latter. We all fear the unknown at least a little.

It takes a strong man to put his faith in something he cannot see. It takes a stronger man to accept that he cannot know everything about this world and doesn't simply make up the answers to comfort himself.

This is going to become a religion battle...

I say chicken though.

Chuck Norris, he laid the egg.

Egg, cell evolved an-
No I'm not. Try to prove evolution.

OH I'M SORRY, THE HUNDREDS OF YEARS OF SCIENCE ARE STILL INSIGNIFICANT COMPARED TO A BOOK WITH NO VALIDITY OR POSSESSED LOGIC. I dare you to prove creationism, when I can prove science has a 100% success rate, never lies, and is the inherit cause, build, and effect for everything.

chicken, because all those cells formed together like the first lifeforms did, and that would make a chicken

The answer I've heard is the egg.

This is because a creature .000000000001% (give or take) different than a chicken laid an egg that hatched a chicken.

Debate over.

Where the egg come from?

i think i know where it came from.

1. A dinosaur had a egg.
2. It hatched into a chicken.
3. The chicken had a egg it hatched into a chicken.
4. It kipped happening.
 

No I'm not. Try to prove evolution.
You're an idiot. You tell someone to prove evolution, then say creationism is correct. Irony at its finest.

Also Reactor Worker is right assuming evolution is true. That's my opinion as well.

Egg, cell evolved an- OH I'M SORRY, THE HUNDREDS OF YEARS OF SCIENCE ARE STILL INSIGNIFICANT COMPARED TO A BOOK WITH NO VALIDITY OR POSSESSED LOGIC. I dare you to prove creationism, when I can prove science has a 100% success rate, never lies, and is the inherit cause, build, and effect for everything.

Lolwut? Pix or it didn't happen.

Even if we can't prove without a considerable doubt that god/creationism ever existed, we can provide certain coincidental instances that seem to prove god could exist. At least some people can. And if I explain all the things I know many will say tl;dr. :D But still, no one can prove anything in the past happened unless we have something that is a direct result of it happening. (Say evolution and you can go die. That is not a direct result kthx.)

Anyways... I say the chicken came first! Or else how would the egg be raised?! D< And besides, who says something couldnt be mutated permanently to have the traits of a chicken? Haven't you heard of the teenage mutant ninja turtles?!

If hte egg came first, nothing would fertilize it.

No, no, no! You're all wrong, the Chickegg came first!

If the egg came first, there would be nothing to keep it warm. :O

If hte egg came first, nothing would fertilize it.

2 very chicken-like animals came together and made hot sweaty love and thanks to normal genetic deviation, the chicken was created upon fertilization. Therefore the egg came first.

Chicken-like creatures came before the egg...but not chickens per se'.

The main issue is where do you draw the line between chicken and non-chicken.

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Even if we can't prove without a considerable doubt that god/creationism ever existed, we can provide certain coincidental instances that seem to prove god could exist.

Key words bold'd. "Certain coincidental instances" sounds like anecdotal evidence to me. Since you can't prove or disprove the belief in a god, you must therefore chose the next best thing, following the logical conclusion.

Example situation where one "answer" is a better choice than another:

There is a theory that life on earth arrived and developed from a "spore" that arrived to earth on an asteroid. The idea behind the theory was that life was too difficult to have been created on earth and therefore we must believe it came from space.

For this "space spore" theory to be true, we would have to accept that not only was life was created somewhere in the universe (suggesting that it could happen on earth too) but it also managed to survive on a frigidly cold rock hurtling through space at amazing speeds and colliding with earth.

While we can never prove that it didn't come on some miracle rock from another galaxy, it is more reasonable to assume that life did appear on earth spontaneously as it requires less coincidences/miracles and is supported by some evidence.

Similarly, although we can't disprove the existence of a god, it is more reasonable to assume that life appeared spontaneously on earth (by chance and circumstance) and evolved into the forms of life we know to exist today (1 miracle), rather than imagine that some unseen being exists and decided to spontaneously create life (2 miracles).

« Last Edit: November 11, 2008, 07:51:52 PM by Reactor Worker »

Reactor Worker, I didn't read your pots(I believe in evolution), but did you mention any of the studies done with fruit flies?