Author Topic: The answer to our energy crCIA?  (Read 5129 times)

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The answer to our energy crCIA?

TOMATOS!

But potatos are better D:

TOMATOS!
No, forget off. The answer is people not being idiots and taking this seriously.

Fine Omega. One of the best answers I can think of is Solar-powered batteries. Charge during the day, run at night or by lights

Fine Omega. One of the best answers I can think of is Solar-powered batteries. Charge during the day, run at night or by lights
Nope, it is extremely inefficient at the time. scientist are experimenting on a way to improve it's less then 10% efficiency.

Nope, it is extremely inefficient at the time. scientist are experimenting on a way to improve it's less then 10% efficiency.
Then make a car that takes in air, purifies it, and puts it back out and uses it again. If possible.

Hydrogen powered cars won't catch on because the catalytic converters consist of platinum, which is in short supply, the hydrogen emissions are damaging to the ozone layer, plus the hydrogen emissions are light enough in weight and density to pass through the fractured ozone layer and into space, making the entire process non-sustainable.

Ethanol's net energy gain is actually an energy loss because more energy is being used in the fermenting and refining of ethanol than that which is gained from it.

peanut oil, if we can use i to make plastic, we should be able to make a car run off of it... oh wait, humanity already has!!! easier to grow than corn, and in perspective, it is not as widely consumed so replacing corn based ethanol with peanut oil should alleviate the food market problems.

speaking from a biochemical perspective, lactose contains more potential energy than ethanol anyway, so if biofuels are the way of the future, I'd say milk is in.
GATHER your cows, goats, llamas, mothers, sisters, and girlfriends and start refining milk NOW!!!

Then make a car that takes in air, purifies it, and puts it back out and uses it again. If possible.

you mean replicate photosynthesis inside an engine?
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you mean replicate photosynthesis inside an engine?
Sure, why the hell not?

Hydrogen powered cars won't catch on because the catalytic converters consist of platinum, which is in short supply, the hydrogen emissions are damaging to the ozone layer, plus the hydrogen emissions are light enough in weight and density to pass through the fractured ozone layer and into space, making the entire process non-sustainable.


Not all catalysts used in fuel cells use platinum. Many use (or attempting to use) various types of ceramics and/or unique polymers. Perhaps even nanotubes will yield the answer.

Hydrogen fuel cells emit H20 as a waste product, not hydrogen. It is sustainable.

Only real problem is separating the Hydrogen from the water (electrolysis) in an environmentally safe fashion.

Recreating photosynthesis inside a car as a powersource is a novel idea, but it would not provide enough power to move the car, at least not within the time frame needed to be useful.


Recreating photosynthesis inside a car as a powersource is a novel idea, but it would not provide enough power to move the car, at least not within the time frame needed to be useful.

true, on a biochemical level, photosynthesis yields only one ATP molecule, compared to respiration which yields 36.

Applying photo-respiration, such as plants use would however, create the necessary fuel source and extract the required energy without any net output of CO2

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Photorespiration produces no ATP

Photorespiration is a wasteful process because G3P is created at a reduced rate and higher metabolic cost (2ATP and one NAD(P)H) compared with RuBP carboxylase activity. G3P produced in the chloroplast is used to create "nearly all" of the food and structures in the plant. While photorespiratory carbon cycling results in G3P eventually, it also produces waste ammonia that must be detoxified at a substantial cost to the cell in ATP and reducing equivalents.

Doesn't sound too good to me.

also there is (probably) no way to use the sugars the plant would give off anyway

Collect the glucose and put it in a jar or something?

Collect the glucose and put it in a jar or something?

How will that drive the car?