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Is Iban nice?

Yes
58 (45%)
No
55 (42.6%)
Maybe
16 (12.4%)

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Author Topic: Iban's Mean IRC  (Read 17151 times)

"Jesus said himself that that was allegorical.  Jesus IS the temple, at the resurrection it was rebuilt."
What verse leads you to conclude that Jesus saed that? There is also a physical temple in Jeruselem that was torn down, then rebuilt, then torn down again. Remember history repeats itself.

"Does the Bible really say that the last times involve having a New World Order? Of course not."
7th and 8th beast of revelation.

"What?"
It is believed that a Red Herring must be found and sacrificed to cleanse the hands of those rebuilding the temple, and the Jewish people were estatic to finally have found one, because they are rebuilding the temple.

"No, they haven't.  Do you know how many natural disasters have happened pre-1600s?  Of course not, no one kept too many records, and records have been lost, etc."
Scientists can understand patterns of climate, they don't need to actually exist at the time to record weather patterns.
Also: http://www.spiritualresearchfoundation.org/articles/id/spiritualresearch/spiritualscience/naturaldisasters
(that's one site upon millions)


"That's a good thing.  The world is getting better."
Violence and immorality have clearily increased. One example is in our schools. Polls from years back state that most kids worried about getting to class on time, being popular, etc. Now, kids worry about getting mugged, beaten up, stabbed, kid-napped, etc. I'll look for the source of this poll.

"Again, that's another good thing."
Where did I say it wasn't? It is just a sign.

"I hate debating this.  No one ever listens, they just listen to the "consensus", but try actually doing some research.  Global Warming is not real."
That's your opinion, your beliefs aren't coheisive. And global warming is real; I did a report on it a few weeks ago. A sample of 9,000 journals published by scientists about man-made global warming has conducted, and ZERO scientists disagreed. The John Burch society is spreading lies to control people.


"The Bible does NOT teach the world is getting worse, and it's obvious it isn't.  The world is way better than it was before."
Can you prove it is way better, because recent polls show a dramatic increase otherwise.

"But Catholicism requires a sin free life because Catholicism states that Christ's death was not enough to atone for our sins.  Later, they said that you can leech the excess goodness from folks who DID live a sin free life, now called saints."
Saints aren't people who lived sin-free lives. And Catholicism doesn't teach that, you must be referring to the emergent church. Catholicism is becoming skewed over these past years. I'm Catholic too and I know that Jesus payed our debt full.

I understand where you are coming from.
It's scary to think something immense could happen, and it's even scarier to think it will.
We have skeptics all around us and no one knows the truth, believers and non-believers.
I think that's the scariest part of it all.
Ya I know how you feel; we are so used to being in control, and to think we won't have control over an immense future disaster is scary. But, a God does exist, and I think he is getting tired of the world rejecting him (there is a reason he is a jealous God). Anyone remember the articles about the loud roar and the largest explosion in history occurring in outer space?
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tl;dr your religion sucks


deal with it

tl;dr your religion sucks
deal with it
Without logic or reason your argument holds no ground. Truth constantly reminds us it is true, that is cohesion. And Christianity is cohesive.

WATCH ME CRY OVER RELIGION.


Buck up and learn about sarcasm.

Also, get out.

Buck up and learn about sarcasm.

Also, get out.
What makes you think I don't know about sarcasm if I was using it myself?
And why should I get out? You aren't using logic to defend your argument.

Because your God told you to.


Ghost, this is now for PM's only, go ahead and PM that post to me and we'll discuss it.

Debating you is exhausting.  You say the world is getting worse based on POLLS?
You've got to be kidding me.

First off, do you really think the world was all happy and cheery at 1 A.D?
Of course not, historical evidence, and biblical evidence AFFIRM that the world was MUCH WORSE, and has gotten better ever since.

Today's world, while bad, is still much much better than it was before.  Have you ever imagined, with all the things we know now about past times, how bad it would've been to live in those times?  Have you ever imagined the violence and immorality in the medieval times?  Have you ever imagined the violence and immorality in revolting France?

Second, the 7th and 8th beasts have a wide variety of interpretations.  Martin Luther said that they signified the Roman Church.  Some folks think it's the Islamic nation

Third, "it is believed".  Nice.  I'd like some fact with my argument please.

Fourth, yes, science can understand patterns of climate, however, that method is known to be inaccurate.  That does not mean that there were more natural disasters now than then.  I mean come on, we're not getting world-wide floods everyday are we?

Fifth, my beliefs are quite cohesive, they are backed by actual science, rather than liberals with an agenda.

Many scientists disagree with global warming.  They are afraid to say so because they will lose their jobs, because the liberal science community won't back anybody who doesn't agree with global warming.  Talk about controlling the people by spreading lies, eh?

Global warming is being pushed to control the products, and essentially, the economy of the world.  The UN and others are setting up world-wide committees to control it.  It's also used to brain-wash the people of the world, so that they are easier to brain-wash on other liberal doctrines.  There is a whole agenda behind it.  And that agenda is to control the world.  Global warming is just the economy, what's next?

Saints, according to real Catholicism are people who have lived sin-free lives.  I am not referring to the emergent Church, I am referring to the Roman Catholic church.  Know your doctrine, unless you're not really a Catholic.
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Duckmeister you're a loving idiot, just get out.


neither can prove either.
No kidding.

I didn't post anything here that was serious or not sarcastic, so really go figure when you want to start a religion debate and expect everyone to fall in line.

Duckmeister you're a loving idiot, just get out.

Need me to call the WAAAAAAAAAAAMbulance?

This is hilarious that a stupid "Iban is mean waaaaaah" topic has turned into a religious debate.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2009, 07:23:41 PM by Duckmeister »