Why worship god, when...

[Digmaster]

Wait, Ghost, your a creationist?

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[Netwars4]

If the universe learned from trial and error wouldn't that mean it has some kind of intelligence behind it? Plus that is just philosophy, there is no proof to justify a trial-and-error scenario that caused life.

Evolution? hello? you know, that thing that does natural selection, otherwise known as trial and error.

[Retz]

You can worship the sun?

Honestly, I can't see how some people think "God" will save them and "Jesus" is the almighty lord. I don't mean to offend any believers here, and there is a lot of faith required to actually believe in it, but it's all science at the end of the day.

A) You can't see them, hear them, or feel them.

B) Science proves that there is no possible way of giant people floating in the clouds.

C) How the hell is some belief going to keep us all alive?

Now the sun, it's totally different.

A) You can see it's light, and you can feel the heat from it.

B) We already know that the sun quite clearly exists.

C) Without it, we might as well call our planet a chunk of ice.

George Carlin did a huge comedy part about warshipping the sun instead, it's pretty funny, but has a lot of meaning.

EDIT: Lol "Warship."

People created God so they have someone to blame

Your mom dies of cancer. Why god!?
Your dog dies. Why god?!
You get laid off from your job. Why god?!

[TapeDeck]

Evolution? hello? you know, that thing that does natural selection, otherwise known as trial and error.

yes. error = death

[Digmaster]

Trial and error does not need any sort of intelligence behind. Bad mutations die, good ones live. Even better ones are stronger and more likely to mate.

[[GSF]Ghost]

Wait, Ghost, your a creationist?

As of right now yes, but I'm still challenging it. I have heard arguments about starlight, fossils, etc., but they have been refuted quite easily. And once you understand the magnetic field of the earth (it was stronger but its decreasing which means it can only have been so strong so it can tell the age of the earth), inconsistencies with carbon dating, etc., then Creationism seems more plausible. The website I posted before, http://drdino.com, answers many questions about evolution, the big band, and many other scenarios which really made sense to me logically.

Trial and error does not need any sort of intelligence behind. Bad mutations die, good ones live. Even better ones are stronger and more likely to mate.

If there is no intelligence then wouldn't there just be error and no progress? We make progress by learning from mistakes. Also if bad mutations die then why are there still bad mutations around? If a frog becomes a human then the frog should die out.

People created God so they have someone to blame

Your mom dies of cancer. Why god!?
Your dog dies. Why god?!
You get laid off from your job. Why god?!

That's an assumption.

[Knifeman]

Does the Bible have any reference to Dinos? Noooooo... We have proof they existed, the Bible says that it was just Man, Mammals, and Reptiles all at once... The forget?

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forget you!

[carbonman14]

Your open minded which is good. Yes our brains have incredible processing power; I once heard it's around 10 petaflops. But, reality is objective, which means it doesn't depend on our mind; if everyone died it would still exists, if everyone was colorblind there would still be color, etc. If truth exists, then it would be objective too and would still be around even today - we could discover truth through objective / cohesive reason. If something is true, it will constantly remind us that it is true. So we didn't create everything, we just perceive it. Science is our way of limiting objectivity so we can understand it with our imperfect minds.

yes that is another good way to speak of someting other than god or science

Does the Bible have any reference to Dinos? Noooooo... We have proof they existed, the Bible says that it was just Man, Mammals, and Reptiles all at once... The forget?

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forget you!

exellent point twards why science is mre realistic

[[GSF]Ghost]

Does the Bible have any reference to Dinos? Noooooo... We have proof they existed, the Bible says that it was just Man, Mammals, and Reptiles all at once... The forget?

yes it does, the Bible does say they existed, but died off in the flood. Which can answer many questions about the fossil record.

[Netwars4]

yes it does, the Bible does say they existed, but died off in the flood. Which can answer many questions about the fossil record.

care to give us a quote/reference to that? cause i dont believe you.

[TapeDeck]

yes it does, the Bible does say they existed, but died off in the flood. Which can answer many questions about the fossil record.

And even if they lived through it, the Flood changed worldwide climate.  Before it was pretty much a worldwide rainforest.  Most of the earth's water was in the atmosphere. After it was the way it is now.

[Netwars4]

And even if they lived through it, the Flood changed worldwide climate.  Before it was pretty much a worldwide rainforest.  Most of the earth's water was in the atmosphere. After it was the way it is now.

and where does the ice age fall into all of this?

[Digmaster]

If there is no intelligence then wouldn't there just be error and no progress? We make progress by learning from mistakes. Also if bad mutations die then why are there still bad mutations around? If a frog becomes a human then the frog should die out.

Progress is slow, good mutations are continued and distributed throughout a population, bad mutations result in death. Also, bad mutations still exist because of the very nature of mutations, they happen randomly.
The frog is perfect for his environment. As is the human. There is no reason for the frog to suddenly die out, as it still survives. Just because something superior comes from it doesn't mean it automatically dies. It survives until it can no longer, then it dies. I have found evolution to be a very stable concept.

yes it does, the Bible does say they existed, but died off in the flood. Which can answer many questions about the fossil record.

Please explain away the conclusive evidence that human and dino never existed during the same period.

[Knifeman]

care to give us a quote/reference to that? cause i dont believe you.

Same

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Why me?!

[Knifeman]

Progress is slow, good mutations are continued and distributed throughout a population, bad mutations result in death. Also, bad mutations still exist because of the very nature of mutations, they happen randomly.
The frog is perfect for his environment. As is the human. There is no reason for the frog to suddenly die out, as it still survives. Just because something superior comes from it doesn't mean it automatically dies. It survives until it can no longer, then it dies. I have found evolution to be a very stable concept.

Please explain away the conclusive evidence that human and dino never existed during the same period.

Yes