Author Topic: What is this thing called?  (Read 2058 times)

Does anyone know what the object in the drawing is called?


We used them in Chemistry to measure something relat electrolytes, I can't remember exactly what. I just remember that when this object was placed into a solution, different lights flashed depending on some characteristic that I can't remember. I do remember that water barely scored one flashing red light on high, while Gatorade caused the top green lights to flash on high. Salt water had a similar effect to Gatorade.

meter to measuse salt content?


I don't know the name of the actual device, but I can tell you what it was doing.

Well if you've studied electrolytes in class you'll know that they contain free ions. A typical characteristic of salts is to break down into ions when in solution with water. Anyway, this device is applying a voltage to the solution and measuring (I assume) the current through the solution. In this case, more lights equals a higher current. Gatorade's purpose is to provide salts to the body after profuse sweating. This is why the result was similar to salt water. Both solutions have a high concentration of salt. Tap water, while it does have dissolved minerals, does not have nearly as many as Gatorade or a prepared salt water solution would have.

Current is the flow of electrons through a circuit. In diagrams it is usually indicated with an arrow. That isn't exactly true. Current direction is the general trend the electrons follow, in reality they are moving in every possible direction. The more free ions you have in a solution the more electrons you can have flowing through that circuit.

I've seen similar devices hooked up to a generator bicycle. The faster you turn the wheels the faster the magnet hooked up to it spins. It's the same thing as the giant rotors in power plants. The faster the magnet is spinning and reversing the poles in the coil the more electrons are going to be moving. The measurement tool is fairly similar, just the method to generate a current flow is different. I've never peeked inside one though. I'd be interested to see what exact circuits are inside one of these.

Sorry I can't help with the name though. It is generally called an ammeter(assuming I'm not handicapped and it is measuring current). Ask Muffinmix for a specific name.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2009, 06:54:09 PM by Otis Da HousKat »

Pretty sure it's a rigged ammeter. Usually potentiometers are used for this stuff, but those require two solutions if differing qualities to get a potential difference reading out of them. I don't think that was your case.

Anyhow, this thing creates a net potential difference between the two electrodes (metal plug things) by charging one of them up. The ions in the solution begin gathering at both electrodes to equilibrate the charge, and this creates a net Electromotive force when the opposite ions begin exchanging from one electrode to anoth3er to equilibrate the charges. This creates a current in the opposite electrode and there you go, circuit complete. That's pretty much how current moves through a solution, and will depend on the amount of ions floating around to equilibrate the charge build up. If there aren't allot of ions then the current will hit a road block on one of the electrodes.

What's measured is the amount of current passing through it in your case, so it has to be an ammeter.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2009, 08:18:01 PM by Muffinmix »

I had figured it was an ammeter, but I wanted to make sure.

Thanks for your help.


are resistors, not measurement devices.

No they are used in measurements and are basically voltmeters. Voltmeters measure potential accross a resistance in a circuit. The solution is the resistance across which potential is determined in this case. Potentiometers just go the extra mile and use a built-in standard reference solution as well and actually measure the potential difference between that standard and the solution to be measured. The standard has a known EMF value (that is calculated experimentally from yet another standard solution) based on the the standard hydrogen cell's EMF, which is set at 0 volts.

There are whole courses on potentiometry and electrochemistry but it's mostly comparison based stuff, and the math works so why the hell not.

No they are used in measurements and are basically voltmeters. Voltmeters measure potential accross a resistance in a circuit. The solution is the resistance across which potential is determined in this case. Potentiometers just go the extra mile and use a built-in standard reference solution as well and actually measure the potential difference between that standard and the solution to be measured. The standard has a known EMF value (that is calculated experimentally from yet another standard solution) based on the the standard hydrogen cell's EMF, which is set at 0 volts.

There are whole courses on potentiometry and electrochemistry but it's mostly comparison based stuff, and the math works so why the hell not.
Bah, I knew that was coming :l

I'm an electro-cigarette so potentiometer means resistor to me.

Bah, I knew that was coming :l

I'm an electro-cigarette so potentiometer means resistor to me.

Eh they both tag along yeah ;)

Edit: I did my superconductor seminar presentation today by the way, I could send you the powerpoint once I get a hold of it again tomorrow. Mostly pictures though. Pretty pictures, cool facts and stuff.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2009, 09:07:46 PM by Muffinmix »

It's a Thermionic Transconductor. Or was it the Thrombic Modulator....I forget. :D

Eh they both tag along yeah ;)

Edit: I did my superconductor seminar presentation today by the way, I could send you the powerpoint once I get a hold of it again tomorrow. Mostly pictures though. Pretty pictures, cool facts and stuff.
Oh sure. Just PM me the file, or do it over MSN. Whichever I don't care, I just can't respond back through PMs.


V=IR


Gooday.

I hate electricity.

what the ****!?
Ugh, if you're gonna post something useless, don't post it at all please