Author Topic: Build a (realistic) computer on Newegg - Full PC system  (Read 1679 times)

You came across some money and decided to use it to build a nice computer. A full system. There is no set budget, but try to be realistic about it. In other words, if you don't think you would use it, or you think it would be overkill, don't "buy" it.

Must be built on nothing but Newegg. DO NOT USE REBATE PRICES. "You save" is fine.

Besides the tower, it must include:

  • An OS
  • Monitor
  • Speakers
  • Mouse
  • Keyboard

Thermal paste doesn't have to be added but it can if you wish. Shipping/tax does not exist. A final price would be very nice.

My build:
Foxconn MicroATX case
Foxconn MicroATX AMD motherboard
EVGA GeForce 9800GTX+
AMD Phenom "Deneb" Quad 3.0Ghz + Cooling
Arctic Silver Thermal Paste
SIIG PCI Audio
Antec 550W Power Supply
GSkill 2x2GB 240-pin SDRAM DDR2 1066
Hitachi 1TB internal SATA
Sony CD/DVD drive
Hanns-G 17" (Perfect size for me) 1440x900 - Changed from this.
Logitech PS/2 Keyboard
Logitech PS/2 Optical 3-button Mouse
Bose Speakers
OEM Vista Home Premium 64-bit
Final price: $964.13 $984.13
« Last Edit: May 10, 2009, 08:48:12 PM by n0cturni »

That looks like a pretty good gaming computer.

My only concern is that will there be enough space for the 9800GTX+ and airflow?

Looks like there would be enough. I don't like big cases.

I'd avoid a Micro-ATX motherboard and case unless size is really a huge issue for you (slight snicker).

Smaller cases mean more difficult cable routing and typically greater cooling issues. A smaller motherboard usually entails giving up on some features that you may want.

Assuming the build is to remain under $1000, you may as well stick with AMD for the processor. They have a great price/performance ratio at the lower end of the market and they remain loyal to their CPU sockets for quite a while which helps with upgrades in the future. Above $1000 I would start to consider a Core I7 build.

Not quite sure why you need to by a separate sound card, the motherboard already comes with a built in chip-set for that. I suppose if you are an audiophile than that would be a good decision. I hope you have the speakers to back it up.

Don't bother getting a 9800GTX if you are going to play on such a small monitor. Either downgrade the GPU or upgrade the monitor, otherwise you are just throwing money away. I use a 22" and I find it to be perfect (although I wouldn't complain about a 24" ;D ).

Any reason why you chose to go with PS/2 mouse and keyboards? I know the motherboard is short on USB ports...but they have PCI cards to amend that issue or external hubs.

Everything else seems to be OK. I haven't really looked into Hitachi HDDs, but I can tell you that Samsung, Seagate and Western Digital all make quality hard drives and have solid reputations. As I said earlier, I'd reconsider the micro-ATX setup. There are lots of great mid-tower cases you can use and the range of standard ATX motherboards is great. Really opens up your options.

Not really going to be buying this stuff, I just find it a bit fun to build computers on newegg, just to see how much something would cost and what the end results would be.

I do thank you for your great advice though. It will help me a lot when the time comes that I need to build something.

Also with the other issues, I have never heard much cutting-edge audio, and I can be an audiophile at times. A decent dedicated audio card and BOSE speakers would really make sounds stand out for me.

I prefer PS/2 over USB for controllers for some odd reason, besides the fact that they take up USB ports. The ports are there; I'd figure to just use them rather than USB.

Now that I look at the monitor, I do find it a bit small. I definitely don't need anything above 17" though, as my current monitor is this large, and I have no complaints about its size. I also don't really understand resolutions. I have some gigantic 1080P HD LCD TV, and it has a 1366x768 res and looks perfectly clear, whilst there are microscopic screens with the same resolution.

I prefer microATX because I generally couldn't see myself using all the bells and whistles ATX can offer. I also do not like large cases. Though I can see how cooling can be an issue. Besides that, getting large things to fit like that 9800GTX could be a real pain, I imagine.

I heard you can't really screw up on buying hard drives besides overpaying $10, which is why I just chose a Hitachi. It was cheap and it was there. The only negative reviews I've seen were some of them coming in DOA. Though I would generally prefer Western Digital or Seagate. Thanks for the advice on Samsung. I wasn't sure about them.

Two questions, though. Not sure how to word them without sounding stupid, so here goes.

The 1066 on the RAM; what is this? The 2GB I have is 667.

What makes Intel superior to AMD? Especially for the huge price difference on some CPU's? I think the cheapest i7 with about 2.XGHz was a good $100 more than a 3.0GHz Quad Phenom.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2009, 07:57:57 PM by n0cturni »

Also nobody wants to build a computer for fun? :o

In regards to the audio card...not really my area of expertise. I'd do some research first and read the reviews before deciding on a particular brand/model. I see plenty of people using those X-Fi cards (or whatever they are called).

Higher resolution is always preferable with computer monitors as it means you can fit more on the screen and better IQ. TV's are slightly different...the viewer is going to be sitting far back and likely not focusing on tiny details (like small text) so a lower resolution is acceptable even on a larger screen size.

This image explains the various resolutions by comparison. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e5/Vector_Video_Standards2.svg
You'll notice that HD 1080 (most common resolution used on HDTV's) is 1920x1080 which is the most common resolution for a 24" monitor. The true beasts are the 30" monitors which display a whopping 2560 x 1600.

The 1066 on the memory is related to it's performance. To really understand it, just read the wikipedia page on it. Generally, the performance gains from upgrading the "speed" of the memory aren't worth the additional expense. Obviously capacity is still important, as is whether it is dual or triple channel.

Intel's OEM CPU's are preferable in the higher-end market where the consumers (hardware enthusiasts, businesses, etc) don't mind spending extra to gain additional performance. They are typically more expensive, but most are either already significantly more powerful than the AMD counterparts...or they have the OCing potential for higher performance. I am of course referring to their higher end CPUs (like the Core i7 series). In the lower end of the market (where value supersedes raw performance) AMD is a great choice. Where you draw line depends on a variety of factors.
Other things to consider include what features are available for the motherboards that match the CPU. For instance, the Core i7 series motherboards (The X58 chipset) all feature the ability to use both ATI Crossfire and Nvidia SLI natively. Additionally, all boards use Triple channel DDR3 memory standard.
One final note, a 3 Ghz AMD CPU isn't equivalent in performance to an Intel 3 Ghz CPU. There is a lot more to "it" than just how high the processor is clocked. There are benchmarks out there that can help you make an informed decision. Try to look for benchmarks that use real world performance indicators such as FPS or time taken and aim for ones that tailor to the programs you are using. Avoid relying on purely synthetic benchmarks.


I suggest a USB mouse and keyboard, it actually increases performance a bit, and soon, most mobos probably won't even support it, it's way obsolete.

I suggest a USB mouse and keyboard, it actually increases performance a bit

Really? Also I think I might ask for that SIIG sound card for my birthdayOH forget YES IT EVEN loving COMES WITH A loving KARAOKE FUNCTIONALITY. forget YES..This 10 year old sound card I am currently using is pissing me off. Without joking, my Bed Bath and Beyond mp3 player produces better sound. Plus I have a decent pair of Sony headphones.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2009, 09:06:28 PM by n0cturni »

Yeah, I had an old computer, the mouse was really bad, got my current mouse, and it boosted the speed.

That and I have not seen a store carry any PS/2 mice for a while. Online, yes. Shopping in the mall for a new one came to no results.

I see PS/2 Keyboards/mice loving everywhere. :o

As a matter of fact, almost all of the pre-builts I see in stores are PS/2 based.

lol i was about to build a computer with like 4 floppy drives