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Edit: nevermind. Misread a post.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2009, 05:00:11 PM by Randomguy »

Straw man's argument

Yes but I'm not using that as a way to say God exists. I'm using it as a way to say you can't disprove that he does. You also can't disprove evolution, I mean this whole argument is based on opinions anyways.

Yes but I'm not using that as a way to say God exists. I'm using it as a way to say you can't disprove that he does. You also can't disprove evolution, I mean this whole argument is based on opinions anyways.

I had misinterpreted your post. It isn't a straw man argument in this case. Although, looking through this thread, I can find plenty of posts that are...

I had misinterpreted your post. It isn't a straw man argument in this case. Although, looking through this thread, I can find plenty of posts that are...

None of my posts I'd hope. :[ I've tried to stay out of this argument, aside from pointing out wrong things people say.

None of my posts I'd hope. :[ I've tried to stay out of this argument, aside from pointing out wrong things people say.

Actually you've posted your own opinion. For example you said that you can't prove that god does not exist. This is perfectly logical (I mean how do you prove that something intangible isn't there) but that is like saying you can't prove the invisible flying elephants that eat only air and never land don't exist.

My view point is that unless you prove the is a god, you must concede that there probably isn't.

For the sake of not making flying elephants a real, due to the fact that you can't find the damn things.


Edit: I'm not starting a debate, this is just my opinion, refute it if you want just don't make yours fact unless it really is.


@General: Do not call me Tc
My point is that it's biased. Sure, Christianity is backed up by the bible and has no scientific facts, but if you were say that it wasn't true, you may be wrong. We do not know where we came from, or have any single proof of it.

The best we could do is believe.


I think religion made up most of the laws and made us more civilized. Take the Romans for example, they had gods, and they didn't completly rely on them. They also believed the consequences for going in the afterlife. They were able to make decent entertainment, a decent economy, and an education system.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2009, 05:35:11 PM by koolkody12 »

When will scientists just disprove God already so that we can get people's heads out of their asses. It's one thing to have faith, but to throw around this fancy pancy "Bible" when we have logical years of research, they'll be laughed at in the community at large.
How can science disprove that there isn't an all-powerful being somewhere?
« Last Edit: May 21, 2009, 05:51:15 PM by pingpeppy »

You can't disprove God, sorry to burst your bubble.

EDIT: Currently, anyways.

Eh, you could. In theory. If you provide enough evidence that causes people to "give up faith" then the thing that fuels God is no longer there, you no longer have God. If God is only an idea, when the idea dies, God dies with it.

But sadly, we'll still wage countless wars in his name because people won't accept that they don't know where they're going to go when they die.

How can science disprove that there isn't an all-powerful being somewhere?

An all-powerful being detector.

Total duh.

But the only way to test that device to see if it works is to test it on an all-powerful being!

But the only way to test that device to see if it works is to test it on an all-powerful being!

Well then Badspot, obviously.

Yes but I'm not using that as a way to say God exists. I'm using it as a way to say you can't disprove that he does. You also can't disprove evolution, I mean this whole argument is based on opinions anyways.
God: Based off of evidence; Evolution: Based off of evidence, and what can be proven mathematically.  The evidence of God's existance can be argued as being the doing of a human.  Now, evolution can be argued in the the same way, but the mathematical portion still stands, without an opinionated belief.

Because there is no valid proof towards God's existence(which some christians may say is the bible, when, if simplified, is a book telling you that the same book must be true(paradox)) the only evidence Science has towards its nonexistence, is that there is no proof towards its existence; the proof that Christianity has obtained, is the Science's disproof.

Let's say you have an imaginary friend, his name is Bill.  You write a book, tell people that your imaginary friend wrote it, and disguise the evidence towards who really wrote it.  You've convinced a group of people that the beliefs stated within this book are true, and that spreading the beliefs of this book, will allow you to achieve something great.  But, you can only die to achieve that something, and Self Delete is not an option.

Somebody disproves your imaginary friend, by stating that he isn't there, and that there's no solid evidence proving him (the proof of which you do not have, is my disproof).  You use the book for your arguement.  Now, the situation is looked upon with extreme detail, and the research behind the book's writer is still unknown.  But, the book states that Bill had written the book(scientific paradox), so the people who have been convinced that this belief system exists, still follow it.

2000 years pass, and this belief system is now one of the major belief systems of the world.  But, Bill, has yet to be proven.

If I apply this situation to Christianity, I see little to no difference.

Wonderful reply Lalam.

Hopefully others will now understand that there's no logic behind saying "BIBLE SAYS IT'S TRUE"

If the world is too complex to happen by chance and a god created it, how the hell was god made? If he was just "here", why couldn't life just be "here"? If someone full of infinite wisdom and power can be created by chance or was already here, why couldn't that be the same for us or at least life?
Hey Christians, answer this in a way that helps prove god's existance. Wait, you can't.

Wonderful reply Lalam.

Hopefully others will now understand that there's no logic behind saying "BIBLE SAYS IT'S TRUE"

I never understood that. The scientific method should have been enough to disprove that, if it can't be recreated in an experiment, then it is obviously false. You have one word and that's Bible, and there's no way of testing it. But no, people don't get it.

Well said Lalam.