Author Topic: The Evolution of the US flag - all 27 changes  (Read 3603 times)



Don't forget DC and Puerto Rico, both of which have sizable campaigns to become a 51st state.
Or new new mexico! (Thats just mexico except with a different name and since new mexico is taken it's new new mexico.)


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The Betsy Ross flag wasn't official. The first official flag was adopted on June 14, 1777. with a vertical arrangement of 3-2-3-2-3, as you see at the beginning of the animations.

So no, I was not pwnt.
However without that we would not have any of those flags you just did.
/re-pwnt

Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't you also include the colonial rebel flag?



And this is.... technically American:


:D

So no, I was not pwnt.



Also,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't you also include the colonial rebel flag?


And this is.... technically American:

:D
The Betsy Ross flag wasn't official. The first official flag was adopted on June 14, 1777. with a vertical arrangement of 3-2-3-2-3, as you see at the beginning of the animations.

So no, I was not pwnt.

As Mtn Dew pointed out with the quotes, the flag you posted, Swolli, is the Betsy Ross flag, which I said was not official.

As for the confederate flag, 2 problems with that:

1) That was never the CSA's national flag. It was its navy jack. You can see the official national flags of the Confederate States of America at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America

2) I was referring to United States flags. The Confederate States was not the United States. Officially, it wasn't even part of it!

INB4Longisland statehood and a new flag.
don't think so

The Betsy Ross flag wasn't official. The first official flag was adopted on June 14, 1777. with a vertical arrangement of 3-2-3-2-3, as you see at the beginning of the animations.

So no, I was not pwnt.

Well considering Betsy Ross wasn't a real person. And that it was the colonial flag of the rebellion. And the rebellion was America. I myself consider it an official flag. I don't care when we adopted it, we used that flag all the way until 1777, so there's good reason to include it. All I know is that historians consider it an official flag, so so do I.

In fact I believe in my AP US history book they listed out all the transitions of the flag and the colonial circle star design was in there listed as: "Colonial Rebellion Flag". It was the first flag to feature stars and stripes and therefore our first flag.

Just because we never "adopted it" doesn't mean it suddenly went up and disappeared, stopped existing or anything like that. It's an important part of history and a flag that I feel should be included in the gif. Though it's not important, I'm just stating an opinion.

As Mtn Dew pointed out with the quotes, the flag you posted, Swolli, is the Betsy Ross flag, which I said was not official.

As for the confederate flag, 2 problems with that:

1) That was never the CSA's national flag. It was its navy jack. You can see the official national flags of the Confederate States of America at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America

2) I was referring to United States flags. The Confederate States was not the United States. Officially, it wasn't even part of it!

Ha ha ha. No no. I wasn't saying that the Stars and Bars be included. That was only a joke. The Confederate States of America was however still America, but their flag doesn't make it into this collection.

Please, I'm a history buff, not a complete moron. I mean even someone with little knowledge of history can say: "South flag not Amurica flag, south flag bad! Solomon Grundy angry!"

EDIT: Oop, I read it wrong, you're right, that's Navy Jack (not to be confused with Union Jack, though similar), not Stars and Bars.

But still, that was only a joke :D

EDIT 2:

Here's a little tidbit, where's THIS flag!?: :D
« Last Edit: June 25, 2009, 11:50:49 AM by Swholli »

The Betsy Ross flag was not official. No flag during the American Revolutionary War was. Not the Binnington flag, Serapis Ensign, Cowpens flag, Grand Union Flag, Brandywine flag, Easton Flag, or North Carolina militia flag.

As for the "Don't Tread On Me" flag, that's out modern Navy Jack.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't you also include the colonial rebel flag?



And this is.... technically American:


:D
The first one was not an official flag.

The second one, was of the confedracy, so I don't think that would count as an american flag.

The Betsy Ross flag was not official. No flag during the American Revolutionary War was. Not the Binnington flag, Serapis Ensign, Cowpens flag, Grand Union Flag, Brandywine flag, Easton Flag, or North Carolina militia flag.

As for the "Don't Tread On Me" flag, that's out modern Navy Jack.

If you say so.

I was more or less making jokes.

As for the colonial rebellion flag (I assume you refer to it as "Betsy Ross" out of habit? Seriously, she didn't make the flag) I myself consider it an official flag as it was adopted as the official flag of the rebellion. Maybe not that of the country, but of the rebellion at least. Though we were a country in 1776 yet didn't adopt the flag until 1777, how could we be a country without a flag? Hrm. Good question.

EDIT:

Quote from: Wikipedia
The Flag Resolution of 1777
13-star "Betsy Ross" flag

On June 14, 1777, the Marine Committee of the Second Continental Congress passed the Flag Resolution which stated: "Resolved, That the flag of the United States be thirteen stripes, alternate red and white; that the union be thirteen stars, white in a blue field, representing a new Constellation.

The Flag Resolution did not specify any particular arrangement, number of points, nor orientation for the stars. The pictured flag shows 13 outwardly-oriented five-pointed stars arranged in a circle, the so-called Betsy Ross flag. Although the Betsy Ross legend is controversial, the design is among the oldest of any U.S. flags.

EDIT AGAIN:

I also noticed you did not include (and this was an official US flag) the 15 striped flag used in 1795, reffered to as the "Stars and Stripes" flag. Although eventually they decided to only change the number of stars rather than the stars and stripes, it was still an important and very much real American flag. And you say you have all of them.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2009, 12:54:48 AM by Swholli »

The second one, was of the Confederacy, so I don't think that would count as an American flag.
Ya, I doubt the Union recognized the legitimacy of the Confederate government so its flag shouldn't be included.