Who died for our sins?

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You didn't have anything to prove, though.

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"And that proves my point of how demons are angels."
"Well what proves your point? You didn't say anything to prove your point."

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Right.. one sec...

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K jsut read it and you are a dumbass.
Revelation 12:7 is talking about Satan attacking Heavan, with Michael and the other archangles protecting Heaven, where Satan then turns his attack unto the Earth.

damn it wrong text >_>

Daniel 10:13
Daniel 12:1
Thessalonians 4:16

Daniel 12:1
thesallonians 4:16

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Your in the wrong section of chritianity. thats what catholics belive, do good hings ad you go to even. bull. the bible itself proves that catholic is wrong. just look at the words from john 3:16 and it proves chatholics ways are wrong

Actually no, Catholics, is you talk to some guy in a wooden box and you go to "even".
Really you are supposed to pray, not just for forgiveness etc, but its almost like medititation in buddhism, it cleares your mind, kinda like a health thing or whatever. Psychologically, religion is good for you, but its still stupid. :/

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"And that proves my point of how demons are angels."
"Well what proves your point? You didn't say anything to prove your point."

More like he didn't have a point in the first place, he just input some random Christian knowledge.

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Daniel 10:13 talks about Michael as a commander, not the revived Jesus.
Daniel 12:1 talks about Michael as a great prince, not the revived Jesus.
Thessalonians 4:16 talks nothing about Michael nor references Michael in any way shape or form.

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Actually no, Catholics, is you talk to some guy in a wooden box and you go to "even".
Really you are supposed to pray, not just for forgiveness etc, but its almost like medititation in buddhism, it cleares your mind, kinda like a health thing or whatever. Psychologically, religion is good for you, but its still stupid. :/

Then what part of christianity does the whole pope crap. and i know its not all of it. cause baptism doesnt

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my fav thing in the bible;

Romans 13:1-5
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you.For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience."


basically, anything any government forces us to do or not do, is ok.
any punishment your country decides to use is protected by god.

yay national socialists! god approved!

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even russia's capitalist government?

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even russia's capitalist government?

Christians defend god's creation of that government.
so yes

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yay. lennen had it right in the first place

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Daniel 10:13 talks about Michael as a commander, not the revived Jesus.
Daniel 12:1 talks about Michael as a great prince, not the revived Jesus.
Thessalonians 4:16 talks nothing about Michael nor references Michael in any way shape or form.

In Daniel 12:1 Its talking about how a nation will escape, so merafotically it's talking about these times of anguish, note how they talked about him as a great commander "leading his angels in armaggedon", and a great prince "leading gods kingdom".

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yay. lennen had it right in the first place

You meant communist... kinda the exact opposite there...

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And ignore earlyer in the Bible that Jesus was a rebel himself. I dont like how the early Christians... well actually roman and greek governments, added all these rules. Kinda ruined the whole rep of Christians who actually try to know what the forget they are talking about.
The books of Revelations, Romans, etc, were not even written until at least a hundred years after Jesus died. The authors never even met the guy, let alone could call themselves desciples... seriously... if we only kept the original Apostle's books things would be much less conflicting. Sure they would still be screwed up, but it wouldn't be so bad.

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yay. lennen had it right in the first place

Lenin*.

>:(
As having ancestors in communism, I'm offended.

In Daniel 12:1 Its talking about how a nation will escape, so merafotically it's talking about these times of anguish, note how they talked about him as a great commander "leading his angels in armaggedon", and a great prince "leading gods kingdom".

Michael can be leading his angels in Armageddon, but that doesn't make him the next Jesus. Jesus is Jesus. He doesn't get a name change or replaced.