Poll

Which is a more reliable source?

The Bible
35 (18.3%)
Science
140 (73.3%)
Bruce Campbell
16 (8.4%)

Total Members Voted: 191

Author Topic: More reliable source?  (Read 42644 times)

@Inv3rted
The def I have says.
"theory |ˈθēərē; ˈθi(ə)rē|
noun ( pl. -ries)
a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained : Darwin's theory of evolution."
*cough*scientific theory*cough*

That's a terrible definition. A theory must be tested and testable. The Theory of Evolution is no less correct than the Theory of Gravity. Can you prove gravity exists? It might all just be a coincidence.

That's a terrible definition. A theory must be tested and testable. The Theory of Evolution is no less correct than the Theory of Gravity. Can you prove gravity exists? It might all just be a coincidence.
Prove a circle is 360 degrees.
Exactly, it's something we accept.

But then again there's string theory, which is not proven in the least. Thus theory is anything that explains anything. Id call evolution more of a law then anything else, in any event.

Tom

Inv3rted is trying to argue theory the same as scientific theory.

Prove a circle is 360 degrees.
Exactly, it's something we accept.

Thats easy to prove. Give me a perfect circle and Ill prove in.


Prove a circle is 360 degrees.
Exactly, it's something we accept.

what the forget

That's a terrible example. We defined a circle to have 360 degrees for the sake of our mathematical system. It doesn't have 360 degrees by default, just like an apple is not called an apple by default.

But then again there's string theory, which is not proven in the least. Thus theory is anything that explains anything. Id call evolution more of a law then anything else, in any event.

String theory has evidence for its existence, just not much. Anyway, it's turned into membrane theory. It's the best we've got for the time being, even if there's scarce evidence. That's not to say it can't be wrong because there's nothing to challenge it.

Gravitons are strings!

Gravitons are the hypothetical particle of gravity. Lisa Randall has proposed that they could be leaking into the theoretical eleventh dimension, which explains gravity's relative weakness. There is mathematical evidence for the existence of extra dimensions, by the way.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2009, 11:31:42 PM by Inv3rted »

Would the two who voted the bible please come up and explain their reasoning?

Tom

Well I voted bible, but I'm still not sure if by science you meant experiments or theories.

Well i voted bible, but I'm still not sure if by science you meant experiments or theories.

Lets say that string theory violated part of the bible. Which is true?

Im not saying either. All Im saying is: Which do you trust more; science or the bible?

Well I voted bible, but I'm still not sure if by science you meant experiments or theories.

LOL WOW YOU'RE SO loving DUMB ASDF LOL

*ahem*

Theories have been experimented on. If believe the Bible has fact within its pages, you're a horribly ignorant fool.

Also, Tom, do you have any scientific knowledge whatsoever or do you believe it's the subject of evil godless scum?

Tom

Theories have been experimented on. If believe the Bible has fact within its pages, you're a horribly ignorant fool.
Theories = Ideas
Theorem/Law = Proven
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The bible is one big book of fairy tales put together, It's my theory how it got started, that some worthless poet wrote a bunch of poems, decided that they where horrible, threw them away and they where found and those people loved what he wrote, and claimed it as their own, and added to it. They loved it so much that they took these works of fiction and formed a cult, eventually some king or sultan got a hold of it, thought it was a good message and forced it down his people's throats. Then some friend came along and claimed to be the messiah, the jews made an example of him.

Yeah that sounds better then, Disciples coming back from the dead supposedly "Heaven" and writing the word of god. "Oh hay guiz if u die u go to effer heven or hell depends if ur gewd or not."

forget that, I'll be a rotting corpse in a body bag on it's way back to the US from an interesting foreign affair in south-east asia before I'll believe that stuff again because I'm a Nihilist.

Theories = Ideas
Theorem/Lax = Proven

I didn't say proven.

That's a terrible definition. A theory must be tested and testable. The Theory of Evolution is no less correct than the Theory of Gravity. Can you prove gravity exists? It might all just be a coincidence.

You can't prove anything outside of mathematics. But, that doesn't mean you should ignore overwhelming evidence. It is the fool's notion to base their outlook upon the world on its ability to be proven. Also, theories aren't just 'ideas'. You still have no idea what one is, and yet you pretend to have knowledge of the universe.
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