Author Topic: All government sucks.  (Read 3865 times)

Eh, Obama has a cool Government. He reforms health care and doesn't afraid of anyone.

Eh, Obama has a cool Government. He reforms health care and doesn't afraid of anyone.
Superior:
I think obama administration is a pretty cool guy. eh changes healthcare and doesnt afraid of anything

There's a reason we invented government; Anarchy doesn't work, there's just too many people. We need a hierarchy to maintain some degree of order. It's like you didn't even spend 5 minutes thinking about this.

Imagine there's at least 10 people per mile², and there's 100² miles in your city. You have roughly a MILLION people. Now imagine there's no police force from stopping the 20% would-be-criminals. It would be mass chaos: Theft, murder, destruction. Haven't you ever seen Back To The Future? The population would fall just due to all the riots, killing sprees, and fighting going on. Even in areas that aren't war-torn, it's still unstable. Forget about money. Without a government, there's no regulated form of currency. There goes economics, so there's no incentive for people to produce things or work. Bartering would be reprised, but virtually useless seeing as anyone could find anything they needed anyway.

Anarchy might work if there was maybe .03 people per mile² a hundred years after a dissolved government (or the events of Fallout), but that isn't so.

In-short: You're a loving moron.

Havent you noticed? In the future all countries will need to unite as one under one government. An Earth with one president, the European union is the beginning of this. Once we unite there will be no more war between our countries, and the Human race will become a stage one civilization. One economy system, this is the way we can only survive. The people who want to stay behind in their caves and beat their wives are called terrorists. These people will not exist in the coming one hundred years, or we distroy our selves in the process.

You guys are touchy about politics.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2009, 10:29:12 AM by orange wolf »

you guys are touchy about politics.
It's just spindle and his "I'm different, I'm better than you, I totally know everything" attitude.

Ok, socialism it is...

Dammit, anarchists are so narrow minded. I actually thought once what an anarchical society would be like and I began to think 'well there would have to be some people that would take charge and...' and then I realized, then it wouldn't be anarchy any more. You think the government sucks? Then become a politician and change it. You can't loving remove all government; society would collapse if there was no government. There is no way for 300 million people in the U.S. to either all simultaneously move to a way of life that wouldn't need a government or continue living in this manner with anarchical society.

Also, you can't revolution your way into a tripartisan system of government. The most likely thing that would happen is a libertarian with enough money and charisma could actually get enough votes to allow himself or a libertarian candidate the next election year to actually be in the presidential debates. If a libertarian did somehow get elected, then it would be a tripartisan or even a new bipartisan system.

Havent you noticed? In the future all countries will need to unite as one under one government. An Earth with one president, the European union is the beginning of this. Once we unite there will be no more war between our countries, and the Human race will become a stage one civilization. One economy system, this is the way we can only survive. The people who want to stay behind in their caves and beat their wives are called terrorists. These people will not exist in the coming one hundred years, or we distroy our selves in the process.
For this to work, no one could ever get pissed off at anyone ever. In fact, for that to (even theoretically) work we would need two things:

1) a lot less people
2) No government.

The very existence of government sets people apart, and people set apart generally aren't happy about it if they got the short end of the stick. A society like this isn't possible based on the fact that we are humans; it is not in our nature to coexist with 6 billion people. Even something ridiculous, like 1 million people on the earth, even then things wouldn't work.

For those of you that aren't people of faith (Inv3rted) you can call it human nature, but otherwise you can refer back to the early chapters of Genesis, when the fall of man occurs. This is essentially the reason that this kind of society cannot occur, at least while we are still fallen and broken people.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2009, 10:38:40 AM by Sirrus »

A single world government is a BAD idea.

ITT: No supporters of The Pirate Party but me
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I support the pirate party :D YARR

A single world government is a BAD idea.
It's a fantastic idea, if done correctly.

It's a fantastic idea, if done correctly.
It can't be done correctly. It can't be done.

If you disagree with me, outline a plan that would get Jews and Arabs to coexist peacefully.

How about white supremacists and blacks?

Oh yeah, you can't use military force.

How about white supremacists and blacks?

Oh yeah, you can't use military force.
Those people already coexist in the US, I don't see what you're getting at...

Those people already coexist in the US, I don't see what you're getting at...
Exactly.
If you disagree with me, outline a plan that would get Jews and Arabs to coexist peacefully.

How about white supremacists and blacks?
A unified government requires a more advanced people, I didn't say "Unify everyone right now". Maybe in the next 100 years, definitely not now.

Well Sirrus thats too bad that we are arrogant Humans, but thats the only way if you want us to survive. Thats the future, unless we distroy our selves.