Author Topic: Build me a compooter. (Read 5547 times)

Righteous One · December 23, 2009, 02:16:12 PM

Quote from: Visage on December 23, 2009, 01:43:28 PM

AMD is probably better for budget until your budget starts getting up there, i7 is the king of CPUs atm.

Here is a comp about 700 bucks which leaves you room to upgrade the cpu or GPU if you want or to pocket the extra for games.

Case - Antec 900
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021
Mobo- This one is good with some upgrade room
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130224&cm_re=MSI-_-13-130-224-_-Product

GPU - 4870, a pretty solid beast, faster than a 9800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161292

PSU - 550 watt, upgrade that if you upgrade the mobo for dual cards
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182031

CPU - phenom triple core, games usually can only use 2 cores anyway and this overclocks easy.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103649

RAM - Decently fast ram and 4 gigs of it
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104158

HD - big cheap HD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136320

DVD drive - No explanation needed
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151197

Triple toast, did you just choose laptop RAM

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Visage · December 23, 2009, 02:19:15 PM

Quote from: Liam Wolff on December 23, 2009, 02:16:12 PM

Triple toast, did you just choose laptop RAM

No I put in a wrong link somehow, but I hate your 250 GPU the rest isn't horrible, I would drop the raptor and get a cheap HD and get a better GPU.

Sirrus · December 23, 2009, 02:20:56 PM

Quote from: Liam Wolff on December 23, 2009, 02:13:13 PM

Here

Case - RaidMax Smilodon
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156063

Power Supply - Sunbeam 680w Modular
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817709023

CPU & Mobo - AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Qaud Core Processor, ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.303822

Holy stuff! 3.2GHz Quad? Epic! Is that cumulative over all four cores, or 3.2GHz on each core?

RAM - CORSAIR XMS3 4GB DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260

GPU - MSI TwinFrozr 1G OC GeForce GTS 250 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127445

How's that stack against the 8800 gt?

HDD - Western Digital VelociRaptor 300gb 10,000 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136322

Damn that's expensive. Would I have compatibility issues if I went with Visage's HDD?

Optical - SONY Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA (Last minute add-on, you should try to salvage one from your old computer)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118031

OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116758

forget that noise, I really don't want Windows 7. It's just going to give me headaches trying to run games, I imagine. I seriously doubt XP support will be dropped any time soon for most games, and unless you can tell me beyond a shadow of reasonable doubt that Windows 7 will improve performance of my gear over XP and have a 95%+ compatibility in terms of games, I'm going do drop it and find a cheap XP or God forbid Vista install.

Visage · December 23, 2009, 02:28:00 PM

His build may look good but he is putting more money into the things that don't really matter for gaming, mine looks to be 100-200 bucks cheaper and I guarantee it would run games much better. That 250 is barely better than an 8800, while the 4870 I put in is better than a 9800. And I don't know any game that utilizes 4 cores on a processor, the clock speed is slightly faster but the triple can be OCed much more so you are basically paying 50 less for the same power.

General Nick · December 23, 2009, 02:31:08 PM

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forget that noise, I really don't want Windows 7. It's just going to give me headaches trying to run games, I imagine. I seriously doubt XP support will be dropped any time soon for most games, and unless you can tell me beyond a shadow of reasonable doubt that Windows 7 will improve performance of my gear over XP and have a 95%+ compatibility in terms of games, I'm going do drop it and find a cheap XP or God forbid Vista install.

Windows 7 is just about compatible with every game I have. The worst that'll happen is you'll have to run old games in compatibility mode. If you're smart enough to turn off UAC to avoid having to click ten-loving-thousand popups per day (like opening Firefox and having it ask you if you really want to do that), then you don't need "Run as administrator". In Vista most games require "Run as Administrator", but now in Windows 7 with UAC off it's really not necessary anymore.

Sirrus · December 23, 2009, 02:31:48 PM

Quote from: Visage on December 23, 2009, 02:28:00 PM

His build may look good but he is putting more money into the things that don't really matter for gaming, mine looks to be 100-200 bucks cheaper and I guarantee it would run games much better. That 250 is barely better than an 8800, while the 4870 I put in is better than a 9800. And I don't know any game that utilizes 4 cores on a processor, the clock speed is slightly faster but the triple can be OCed much more so you are basically paying 50 less for the same power.

Even if it's only using two cores, that's two cores at 3.2GHz, that counts for something, no?

Also, I found a card that looks pretty good.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130339

Although that's the 9800 you were talking about. So your card is better?

Visage · December 23, 2009, 02:33:36 PM

Yea mine is better, and you can OC the triple core to 3.8 ghz without any problem, you could probably do that with the phenom 2 also but I would save the 50 bucks.

Righteous One · December 23, 2009, 02:33:50 PM

Holy stuff! 3.2GHz Quad? Epic! Is that cumulative over all four cores, or 3.2GHz on each core?

Yes.

How's that stack against the 8800 gt?

Here's a comparison chart straight from newegg. (The 250 is better)

Damn that's expensive. Would I have compatibility issues if I went with Visage's HDD?

Not at all. That harddrive was chosen for it's speed.

forget that noise, I really don't want Windows 7. It's just going to give me headaches trying to run games, I imagine. I seriously doubt XP support will be dropped any time soon for most games, and unless you can tell me beyond a shadow of reasonable doubt that Windows 7 will improve performance of my gear over XP and have a 95%+ compatibility in terms of games, I'm going do drop it and find a cheap XP or God forbid Vista install.

I hear ya' I would go with vista before xp is shut down foeva

Righteous One · December 23, 2009, 02:35:29 PM

Quote from: Visage on December 23, 2009, 02:33:36 PM

Yea mine is better, and you can OC the triple core to 3.8 ghz without any problem, you could probably do that with the phenom 2 also but I would save the 50 bucks.

Double toast again. I have the Phenom II X4 running stable at 4.2 pretty easily.

Visage is right about the graphics card and harddrive. If you swapped his GPU and HDD with the ones I chose it should work just fine.

Visage · December 23, 2009, 02:36:55 PM

Quote from: Liam Wolff on December 23, 2009, 02:35:29 PM

Double toast again. I have the Phenom II X4 running stable at 4.2 pretty easily.

The triple could do 4.2 easy too but I wouldn't recommend it for him, he wouldn't know how to increase voltage correctly. I am merely saying 50 bucks off and you won't see a difference on games out today, yours is better and would last like half a year to a year longer, but I am thinking budget.

And about the ninja edit, if you mean take my GPU and HD and put it on your spec, yes that would work very nicely. But still cost more than mine.

Marcem · December 23, 2009, 02:39:38 PM

I haven't failed to run any games under Windows 7. Hell, it still runs skifree! It's something you should get.

Righteous One · December 23, 2009, 02:40:20 PM

Quote from: Visage on December 23, 2009, 02:36:55 PM

The triple could do 4.2 easy too but I wouldn't recommend it for him, he wouldn't know how to increase voltage correctly. I am merely saying 50 bucks off and you won't see a difference on games out today, yours is better and would last like half a year to a year longer, but I am thinking budget.

Yeah but with $1000 you can get a pretty solid system. I see your point and it makes sense. The general build should stay around what I posted but with Visage's chosen GPU and HDD. That will you save about $100.

Visage · December 23, 2009, 02:42:45 PM

Quote from: Liam Wolff on December 23, 2009, 02:40:20 PM

Yeah but with $1000 you can get a pretty solid system. I see your point and it makes sense. The general build should stay around what I posted but with Visage's chosen GPU and HDD. That will you save about $100.

I also have no idea about your case, it looks a little fancy but do you know anything about it? If not my case too, I will admit that your mobo and CPU combo would be great and your ram too if he has that budget.

Sirrus · December 23, 2009, 02:44:04 PM

Righteous One · December 23, 2009, 02:44:16 PM

Quote from: Visage on December 23, 2009, 02:42:45 PM

I also have no idea about your case, it looks a little fancy but do you know anything about it? If not my case too, I will admit that your mobo and CPU combo would be great and your ram too if he has that budget.

My first build was with that case. For a beginner it makes the easy installation since the whole left half of the case is removable. I'll try to find a picture.

Alright,

That hardly shows it but that whole half of the case comes off making the installation incredibly easy.