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[Zenthrox]

It's difficult to be one of the only creationists here; I've got a lot of arguments to follow.

I'm a bit confused as to why Zenthrox accepts adaption yet denies evolution.Well, you see, if it adapts it is far less likely to die before reproducing. This is because the purpose of adaption is to lower the likelihood of dying before reproducing; hurp. It's not a CHANCE the off spring will inherit the adaption, the off spring WILL inherit it. This is stuff doesn't happen over night, evolution takes a long time. You can't say "Evolution isn't real because it would take thousands of years" because it DOES take thousands of years.

I'd also like to know what facts you have backing this "It's probably impossible". Once again, if something can adapt it can evolve.

This is why I said that I don't know if macroevolution is possible. A slim chance is still a chance. However, I also doubt the account as to how old the earth is. If the time of earth's existence was discovered, we'd know if evolution is possible or not. As for adaption, it's meant to increase survival rate, but having a few adaptations doesn't make immune from harm. It may help a creature survive in the cold better, but that won't help it survive an encounter with a wolf pack. (Or some other kind of predator).

I'll get to your post later, Wizard.

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[Wizard]

It's difficult to be one of the only creationists here; I've got a lot of arguments to follow.
This is why I said that I don't know if macroevolution is possible. A slim chance is still a chance. However, I also doubt the account as to how old the earth is. If the time of earth's existence was discovered, we'd know if evolution is possible or not. As for adaption, it's meant to increase survival rate, but having a few adaptations doesn't make immune from harm. It may help a creature survive in the cold better, but that won't help it survive an encounter with a wolf pack. (Or some other kind of predator).

I'll get to your post later, Wizard.

I understand how hard it is. I'll continue to brutally murder all of your false and completely ridiculous points.

I'm not sure you understand the probabilities we're talking here. What you may have heard is how unlikely life arising in the first place. That may be true and it might not be, we haven't done experimentation. We have been able to create some of the basic protiens for life in lab tests since the 1800s. The problem with your earth age argument is that you don't get just how many times it's been proven we're right. You don't understand the incredible effectiveness of carbon dating and similar methods. While an adaption to help a creature survive the cold doesn't help you against wolves, but it does help you against cold, and that's a slight advantage over the other species so they will slowly emerge as superior as the trait is passed on and increased through these incredibly vast periods of time. Another post to get to.  

[Inv3rted]

It's difficult to be one of the only creationists here; I've got a lot of arguments to follow.
This is why I said that I don't know if macroevolution is possible. A slim chance is still a chance. However, I also doubt the account as to how old the earth is. If the time of earth's existence was discovered, we'd know if evolution is possible or not. As for adaption, it's meant to increase survival rate, but having a few adaptations doesn't make immune from harm. It may help a creature survive in the cold better, but that won't help it survive an encounter with a wolf pack. (Or some other kind of predator).

I'll get to your post later, Wizard.

How are you denying that we have observed speciation?

How are you denying that the Earth is as old as every valid dating method ever devised says it is?

[Zenthrox]

I understand how hard it is. I'll continue to brutally murder all of your false and completely ridiculous points.

I'm not sure you understand the probabilities we're talking here. What you may have heard is how unlikely life arising in the first place. That may be true and it might not be, we haven't done experimentation. We have been able to create some of the basic protiens for life in lab tests since the 1800s. The problem with your earth age argument is that you don't get just how many times it's been proven we're right. You don't understand the incredible effectiveness of carbon dating and similar methods. While an adaption to help a creature survive the cold doesn't help you against wolves, but it does help you against cold, and that's a slight advantage over the other species so they will slowly emerge as superior as the trait is passed on and increased through these incredibly vast periods of time.

Maybe I am ignorant of evolution, then. I should probably study it more in-depth. However, as is, I still stand by my views.

Could you suggest a book or two that could give me a start?

Another post to get to. 

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[Wizard]

Maybe I am ignorant of evolution, then. I should probably study it more in-depth. However, as is, I still stand by my views.

Could you suggest a book or two that could give me a start?

On the Origin of Species


Alright, fine, maybe that's a little... dull. Ask a teacher or look for a book in a library (be careful not to choose one with a creationist bias, these arguments are just the ones you've presented to me and are honestly dull and boring and stupid).  You could look for a definition on the internet too although I'd be careful since it's easy to go wrong there. At least you're willing to learn.

[Inv3rted]

Maybe I am ignorant of evolution, then. I should probably study it more in-depth. However, as is, I still stand by my views.

Ignorance is the only reason to be against it.

That being said, you can hold on to your religious views and at the same time accept evolution. Just read up on it and understand that everyone educated in science supports it. There is no debate within the people who actually understand it.

[Wizard]

Ignorance is the only reason to be against it.

That being said, you can hold on to your religious views and at the same time accept evolution. Just read up on it and understand that everyone educated in science supports it. There is no debate within the people who actually understand it.

I'd like to add that there's no reason why you shouldn't question your religious views too, but certainly he's right. Evolution does not mean you need to abandon your religion, it doesn't even lead into it. All that it possibly negates is a literal account of genesis. That's all. You can even believe god created life to start with and still agree with evolution.

[Inv3rted]

I'd like to add that there's no reason why you shouldn't question your religious views too, but certainly he's right. Evolution does not mean you need to abandon your religion, it doesn't even lead into it. All that it possibly negates is a literal account of genesis. That's all. You can even believe god created life to start with and still agree with evolution.

PROTIP: You can't expect a fundamentalist of any religion to suddenly accept what you say instantly.

Concurring with modern science is a first step.

[Wizard]

PROTIP: You can't expect a fundamentalist of any religion to suddenly accept what you say instantly.

Concurring with modern science is a first step.

I thought that last post might have been going a bit too far lol.

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[Zenthrox]

Alright, fine, maybe that's a little... dull. Ask a teacher or look for a book in a library (be careful not to choose one with a creationist bias, these arguments are just the ones you've presented to me and are honestly dull and boring and stupid).  You could look for a definition on the internet too although I'd be careful since it's easy to go wrong there. At least you're willing to learn.

I admit my arguments aren't the best. Give me a break, though, I'm in 10th grade and have heard the story from mainly a creationist view. I want to know more about evolution before I start debating it.

Also, I've questioned my religion a few times before. I do my best to avoid blind faith.

[Wizard]

I admit my arguments aren't the best. Give me a break, though, I'm in 10th grade and have heard the story from mainly a creationist view. I want to know more about evolution before I start debating it.

Also, I've questioned my religion a few times before. I do my best to avoid blind faith.

No, no. You're smart for a creationists. You hear the same arguments from big-time creationists like Ray Comfort. When a 10th grader from a creationist view debates a theory as well as people who do it for a living, you know there's a problem.

[Zenthrox]

No, no. You're smart for a creationists. You hear the same arguments from big-time creationists like Ray Comfort. When a 10th grader from a creationist view debates a theory as well as people who do it for a living, you know there's a problem.

Maybe, maybe not.

For now, I'll need to start my evolution studies; thanks for the reference.