Guy talking about killing himself

[snugglebear212]

I've just given up on these members, they don't understand.

that's where you are wrong some of them do understand but they dont want to show any weakness.

Who cares? If someone wants to kill themselves let them. Self Delete is for idiots and weaklings.

i agree with this because if they aren't mentally strong enough to support themselves in this world they shouldn't have the right to be here.

You speak as if you think anyone that even thinks about Self Delete is a complete failure, you don't even know the facts or the details of what she went through. The person who caused her Self Delete is now serving a life sentence in prison, it was not her fault at all.

you say that Self Delete is not the fault of the one that kills themself? the truth is she killed her self the father didn't do it and no outside forces caused her to tye the noose and hang herself.

No, her father. The father kept her locked in a mental cage, he would beat her and occasionally rape her. The only time she was able to leave was for school. She was told that if she spoke a word of it to anyone that he would find her and kill her. The hour before she committed Self Delete she left a note on my door step, it described all that had happened. After I brought it to the authorities it was to late, they found her in the closet of her fathers room with a noose around her neck.

more likely he is serving life for rape, mental abuse, and planning to commit murder not for causing her death.

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[*Magick* Mage]

However, sentenced or not, he more than likely caused post-traumatic stress, which often results in abnormal behavior and thoughts of Self Delete. He did not kill her, however he enabled her to kill herself. It's the butterfly effect, basically. Would she have killed herself if he hadn't done those things? Could she cope in a situation similar had it not been her father? Had someone been there for her, could they have helped prevent it?

Many factors go into such occurrences, and while she made the choice to kill herself, and she went through with it, one should not chastise her now deceased mind for being "idiotic". Committing Self Delete is a stupid, stupid choice, but that does not make the one who considers and or does it moronic.

And the "mentally strong", define that please. Even those whom cannot support themselves "properly" may provide something into this world. A life is a life.

[snugglebear212]

However, sentenced or not, he more than likely caused post-traumatic stress, which often results in abnormal behavior and thoughts of Self Delete. He did not kill her, however he enabled her to kill herself. It's the butterfly effect, basically. Would she have killed herself if he hadn't done those things? Could she cope in a situation similar had it not been her father? Had someone been there for her, could they have helped prevent it?

Many factors go into such occurrences, and while she made the choice to kill herself, and she went through with it, one should not chastise her now deceased mind for being "idiotic". Committing Self Delete is a stupid, stupid choice, but that does not make the one who considers and or does it moronic.

And the "mentally strong", define that please. Even those whom cannot support themselves "properly" may provide something into this world. A life is a life.

yes he did enable her to kill herself but the butterfly effect really? That has nothing to do with this.
I never said they were idiots but she did have other choices like actually going to the cops or even telling a trusted friend to tell the cops, going to the school counselor, and I’m sure other ways to get her father thrown in jail while she wasn’t around him. She was mental weak because she didn’t have the will power to solve here problems and apparently thought that no one else was going to help her either.

[*Magick* Mage]

yes he did enable her to kill herself but the butterfly effect really? That has nothing to do with this.
I never said they were idiots but she did have other choices like actually going to the cops or even telling a trusted friend to tell the cops, going to the school counselor, and I’m sure other ways to get her father thrown in jail while she wasn’t around him. She was mental weak because she didn’t have the will power to solve here problems and apparently thought that no one else was going to help her either.

Try being in a cornered situation and see how comfortable you feel telling others. And the butterfly effect was a hypothetical idea, hadn't she been in those situations (And, for the record, I'm using "she" as a place holder in general for those who commit Self Delete in such situations, regardless if this occurrence happened or not) then she more than likely wouldn't have committed Self Delete. Simply expanding on the terms that it wasn't completely her own fault.

Sometimes people feel that they are in the middle of a crowded room, screaming on the top of their lungs, and no one bothers to look up. And people feel this, often, because of how the world is today. Because people these days are materialistic or to busy with their own "problems" to care for another. As much as I Love this world and the people in it, I even admit that it lacks many essential values. I am not excusing those whom commit Self Delete, no. I don't believe that is a viable "escape". Though, those whom commit Self Delete often feel the way they do because of an external source they have rejected, yet submitted to internally.

Basically, most people wouldn't commit Self Delete if they didn't feel alone. And most people wouldn't feel alone if the world cared more about each other as opposed to themselves.

[SeventhSandwich]

Tell him it breaks rule 5.

Anonymous never forgives?

[snugglebear212]

Try being in a cornered situation and see how comfortable you feel telling others. And the butterfly effect was a hypothetical idea, hadn't she been in those situations (And, for the record, I'm using "she" as a place holder in general for those who commit Self Delete in such situations, regardless if this occurrence happened or not) then she more than likely wouldn't have committed Self Delete. Simply expanding on the terms that it wasn't completely her own fault.

Sometimes people feel that they are in the middle of a crowded room, screaming on the top of their lungs, and no one bothers to look up. And people feel this, often, because of how the world is today. Because people these days are materialistic or to busy with their own "problems" to care for another. As much as I Love this world and the people in it, I even admit that it lacks many essential values. I am not excusing those whom commit Self Delete, no. I don't believe that is a viable "escape". Though, those whom commit Self Delete often feel the way they do because of an external source they have rejected, yet submitted to internally.

Basically, most people wouldn't commit Self Delete if they didn't feel alone. And most people wouldn't feel alone if the world cared more about each other as opposed to themselves.

that’s why schools have counselors so that things like this can be prevented. And I agree with you on most but I cant shake the fact that her father provided an excuse for Self Delete but she is still the one that chose that path. I felt rejected once and I turned it around I admit that at that time it seemed hard but I never thought about Self Delete. Everybody is different and I thank you for agreeing with me

[*Magick* Mage]

that’s why schools have counselors so that things like this can be prevented. And I agree with you on most but I cant shake the fact that her father provided an excuse for Self Delete but she is still the one that chose that path. I felt rejected once and I turned it around I admit that at that time it seemed hard but I never thought about Self Delete. Everybody is different and I thank you for agreeing with me

Hunkey-funky then.

And I never said she had an excuse to commit Self Delete. She made the choice, but it was enabled by others. A big portion of one's life is other lives, even though you ultimately plow most pathsy. Stories overlap other stories as stones in a rippling brook. That's life.

And I, too, have felt rejected as well. These subjects I feel strongly about as I have nearly committed Self Delete on multiple occasions, the thoughts still echoing through the darkest, most dusty recesses of my mind. You live and you learn, but then, that too is life. A learning experience.

[snugglebear212]

Hunkey-funky then.

And I never said she had an excuse to commit Self Delete. She made the choice, but it was enabled by others. A big portion of one's life is other lives, even though you ultimately plow most pathsy. Stories overlap other stories as stones in a rippling brook. That's life.

And I, too, have felt rejected as well. These subjects I feel strongly about as I have nearly committed Self Delete on multiple occasions, the thoughts still echoing through the darkest, most dusty recesses of my mind. You live and you learn, but then, that too is life. A learning experience.

/agree

[Illidan]

If a friend of mine killed them self, I wouldn't be sad for them.

I'd be pretty pissed that they were stupid enough to actually commit Self Delete.

It's a selfish act for people who are too weak to go through anything traumatic.

[tay104]

If a friend of mine killed them self, I wouldn't be sad for them.

I'd be pretty pissed that they were stupid enough to actually commit Self Delete.

It's a selfish act for people who are too weak to go through anything traumatic.

I would have to agree.

[JAW959]

Ahem... allow me to interrupt all this moralcigarette-ing to say

do it friend

[Chriz]

The people who commit Self Delete never brag about it for attention over the internet, they just do it. This person is an extreme attention whore hoping someone takes him seriously to try and compliment the person or talk him out of it for one reason or another.

Lame attempt at pity is lamely attempted.

if i ever do it i'd just post a thread to notify you guys, say goodbye etc

[Kimmia]

Let him kill himself