Author Topic: Whats going on with the NSA?  (Read 4713 times)

Let me also remind of Bush(a republican) was responsible for the patriot act, Obama(democrat) said he would get rid of it. However the Patriot act is still around and Obama has done nothing about signed NDAA. What was that about various factions fighting for control? They are one in the same my friend.
They are part of different parties, but they held the same office. What you are actually seeing is more political conflict, not less. The office of the President is always fighting to grab power from Congress.

Our privacy should file a restraining order.

as apposed to the exact opposite, other handicap side of the spectrum:
a person who learns about real world events from memes and comics, is scolding the guy who watches to much main stream media.
yawn
THANK YOUB BISJAC

people also forget that the situation of entering the presidency is just a secret club: you can try and make promises and good intentions, and you get in and it turns out there's already a system of cogs that you have to fit into. every, single, president, has had to deal with this.


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Which is all the proof you need to show that politicians will say whatever it takes to stay in power and don't give a stuff about us.

I swear to loving god, if I find out that some motherforgeter's been spying on me and my girlfriend in our conversations and video chats, I'm going to track every single one of the privacy invaders and beat the living forget out of them, gouge their eyes out, and dance in an Uncle Sam outfit in victory.

Freedom freedom freedom oi!

They're not monitoring you personally, they're monitoring everyone impersonally.

They're not monitoring you personally, they're monitoring everyone impersonally.
This is true. Data collection is performed on everyone and then all that data is archived. Obviously there are not NSA agents who are actively viewing everything that everyone is doing; that's just not possible due to the sheer magnitude of today's digital communications. This isn't new information at all and is being popularized by current events. I seriously believe that the NSA can probably break any asymmetric crypto and very well could have the quantum computing capabilities that could probably to break AES-128. To that end I would bet money that SSL won't save you and Tor is getting more and more infested with government run nodes. Almost no digital communication is secure these days.

All this monitoring is scary because as Snowden said -- it allows for "turn-key tyranny". If whoever is currently in power decides to create a larger government "for national security in light of current events", they can easily go back in time for people they don't like (protesters) and find the dirt on them. Such increases of power historically have ALWAYS been painted as something necessary which will eventually be turned back to normal after whatever crCIA is over; look at the Soviet Union or national socialist Germany. Both of those states said the exact same thing. How would you like it if you were to protest a government clamping down on every facet of life, and then to blackmailed by agents to get your friends. Don't think that this won't happen in the US, it already is.

Even if you have nothing to hide such collection is a form of oppression. If it is not controlled by the population it will eventually suffocate you like a snake. Don't forget that governments are run by regular people like you and I, just the natural progression of power takes both us /and/ them by surprise like a boiled frog. This is something to seriously watch out for as it's yet another sickening thing to be deemed necessary in the name of "terrorism" -- at this point quite literally an eternal enemy to promote a state of war which seemingly won't end.

I think we all share a few common types of privacy that we don't want anyone else to be staring at with their creeping eyes:

Nudes
lovets
Personal info about loved ones
Download history
Etc.

Personally, the photo/video/audio privacy invasion is what bothers me most. There are conversations I have with my girlfriend that are kept confidential between me and her. As it is, I'm so protective of her that any other person that sounds like they might hit on her, I begin preparing ways to defend her from any potential creepers.

She lives about two and a half hours from me, so the fact that I can't communicate with her in real life (except when she comes to visit or when I visit her) is very difficult because I have to constantly think about what and what not to say, what and what not to do over Skype, etc, because I know that even if they aren't spying on me in particular, they're gathering information and have the ability to view it.

I don't want those motherforgeters seeing parts of my girlfriend that are to be seen strictly by me and only by me. This is an example that should be relevant to most people with relationships online/long distance. Personally, I believe that anyone who is okay with the current situation we're in right now has some serious hatred for liberty.

I'd rather die as a free man than one living under tyrannical rule.