Author Topic: Apparently I am a rape apologist.  (Read 1613 times)

apparently me having bangs and brains makes me a style of rock music characterized by melodic musicianship and expressive, often confessional, lyrics.

Seriously, why go after for proof?

why argue with stupid people

why argue with stupid people

These 5 words are so applicable to the description of the internet's existence thus far.

The legal system is what requires proof beyond a shadow of a doubt. Getting someone convicted is where quality of evidence matters more than anything. However, who you personally consider a rapist or criminal is totally up to your own standard of evidence. Most people who are prosecuted for raping someone actually did it. The number of false reports is a drastically small percentage, so you personally shouldn't need that much evidence when a celebrity or someone gets accused of rape.

That being said, this girl is overreacting. You aren't defending rapists by wanting a higher standard for evidence.

why argue with stupid people

exactly

stupid people argue you down to their stupidity level then beat you with experience

The legal system is what requires proof beyond a shadow of a doubt. Getting someone convicted is where quality of evidence matters more than anything. However, who you personally consider a rapist or criminal is totally up to your own standard of evidence. Most people who are prosecuted for raping someone actually did it. The number of false reports is a drastically small percentage, so you personally shouldn't need that much evidence when a celebrity or someone gets accused of rape.

That being said, this girl is overreacting. You aren't defending rapists by wanting a higher standard for evidence.
Thank goodness for DNA evidence, it's help a few people who were innocent get their freedom back. Unfortunately at the cost of their time and reputation.

The number of false reports is a drastically small percentage, so you personally shouldn't need that much evidence when a celebrity or someone gets accused of rape.

You personally should need as much evidence as you personally feel is sufficient proof. The law system is the one you have to worry about getting the exact equation perfect.

Instead of arguing with this person, this is how you are to deal with situations like this.

because im sure people can say "what really is proof of rape aside from non-consent."
Proof would be such things as (but not necessarily or exclusively);
DNA Evidence (e.g; blood from either party found on the other, as if coming from defensive/offensive wounds, or more likely, sperm from the culprit found in/on/around the victim)
A report of the incident at the time (which is useful when you have scenarios where someone comes forth and says they were raped 20-30 years ago).
Physical markings left upon the victim which could suggest rape or abuse (such as bruising from fingers held firmly on the neck, or arms or legs) (Obviously only available at a time soon after the event)
Any evidence/testimony to prove that the victim and the accused were in the same place at the same time.
Character Witnesses, while not evidential, also help give away whether someone is or is not a rapist.

It's not really worth arguing about with these sort of people.

All they want to do is care/protect the victims. Which is noble in it's own right, but they'll ignore what happens to the accused.
And yeah, really, you shouldn't believe anyone's a rapist without proof, or at the very least you shouldn't condemn someone as a rapist without proof of it. False rape accusations can cause serious defamation and ruin lives.

But people are still going to come to conclusions (right or wrong) without all the evidence anyway. You can't stop that.
The court of law doesn't (usually and hopefully) act that way.
But people will. And they'll defend their conclusions vehemently. If you don't want the argument, don't try to discuss or debate with people on such controversial topics.

Problem: You were being an starfish for no reason.

Problem: You were being an starfish for no reason.
I literally just asked for proof lmao

"1v1 me on twitr m8"

i've never actually seen it happen

The legal system is what requires proof beyond a shadow of a doubt. Getting someone convicted is where quality of evidence matters more than anything. However, who you personally consider a rapist or criminal is totally up to your own standard of evidence. Most people who are prosecuted for raping someone actually did it. The number of false reports is a drastically small percentage, so you personally shouldn't need that much evidence when a celebrity or someone gets accused of rape.

That being said, this girl is overreacting. You aren't defending rapists by wanting a higher standard for evidence.

Oh thank god you said this.

I was afraid this thread would go in a whole other direction.