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What do you believe?

God exists!
47 (33.3%)
There is no such thing as god...
32 (22.7%)
I don't believe in god but I'm open to the thought.
62 (44%)

Total Members Voted: 141

Author Topic: Is it safe to say god doesn't exist now?  (Read 7192 times)

Hi, I came back cause this thread isn't dying and why the heck not

So apparently, the host of Mythbusters created a Twitter contest for atheists to come up with their own version of the Ten Commandments. Basically just the rules that they think any person should strive to live by. One of my friends on Facebook (President of a Christian apologetics summer camp at a university campus) went through the list making some of his own comments/thoughts on them. I put his comments in blue.

Here it is:

1. Be open-minded and be willing to alter your beliefs with new evidence.
Does this apply to new evidence supporting theism in general and Christianity specifically?

2. Strive to understand what is most likely to be true, not to believe what you wish to be true.
Does this apply to likely truths that undermine atheism?

3. The scientific method is the most reliable way of understanding the natural world.
Can this statement be proven by the scientific method?

4. Every person has the right to control over their body.
Does this apply to living and/or unborn people who have no control over their bodies?

5. God is not necessary to be a good person or to live a full and meaningful life.
Apart from God how do you measure words like "good" and "meaningful"?

6. Be mindful of the consequences of all your actions and recognize that you must take responsibility for them.
Good advice but apart from God who or what enforces this command? Words like "must" are morally meaningless apart from God.

7. Treat others as you would want them to treat you, and can reasonably expect them to want to be treated. Think about their perspective.
Good advice but who or what enforces this command?

8. We have the responsibility to consider others, including future generations.
Good advice but who or what enforces this command?

9. There is no one right way to live.
This command saws off the tree limb the rest are hanging from.

10. Leave the world a better place than you found it.
Good advice but who or what enforces this command?

I will say that I think his questions for 7, 8, and 10 could be much better, since atheists don't live up to anyone.

Because some people need the faith it gives. I myself am agnostic atheist, but I understand that some people take comfort in the belief that someone is always watching and guiding them. Its a matter of comfort, and should not be judged unless its being used to attack or disown someone else.


most of those replies are just downright stupid

yea its just critizing common sense

Most arguments about religion are between christians and athiests. There are a whole ton other religions with different perspectives that could be looked at, and to be honest the way I see it no one religion is more right than another with their associated scripture and teachings.

Personally I feel that religious teachings have their basis on people back then not knowing and using the idea of a god or gods or godlike things to explain them like people have said in this thread before. For that I think that the discussion of a higher being or whatever high and being should be separated from a religious context because the basis of it is unreliable - just the way I see it though, I'm not calling total bullstuff on the Bible or the Vedas or whatever.

i dont really believe that some great being created everything.

like, unless i get definite proof, i'm not believing it, but i am open to the idea of it.

i just think we got super lucky with earth being just right for life, which would explain why only earth and nearly nowhere else has life on it

big bang is the only scientific thing that confused me about the creation of the universe. like, what the hell happened to just cause a ton of stuff to just be created out of complete nothingness, and what was it like before the big bang, was everything just a inky black void or something else?

"EVRTHHHHING NEEDZZZZ A CREATORRRR!!!!!"

Who created god?

"WELL HHHHEEES OMNIPOTENT DUHHHHH READ THE BIBLE NERD!!!!!"

i just think we got super lucky with earth being just right for life, which would explain why only earth and nearly nowhere else has life on it
well this may be true within our solar system, but we can't speak outside that. there are probably billions of planets with life.


"EVRTHHHHING NEEDZZZZ A CREATORRRR!!!!!"

Who created god?

"WELL HHHHEEES OMNIPOTENT DUHHHHH READ THE BIBLE NERD!!!!!"
Meh, I just need to belive in him only in my darkest moments.
Like I said, if you belive it'll work, it'll work for you. Not exactly for others.
Religion is that.

not really. its easier to claim something doesnt exist than to claim it does
easy is irrelevant because it's impossible to know such a thing either way