{K} Krypt - And the new leader and co-leader are...

[Wynd_Fox]

Yeah, but they'll being it press page up and see far more words than that at a time. And they may be smart enough to realize that the two people are using different cyphers. My point is, most people, given enough time, can do it.

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[TheKhoz]

They will be able to realize they are using different cyphers? I don't think so. It requires two people to have one conversation with 1 cypher. Two other people are having a conversation with a different cypher.

It would look kinda like this:

Per1: qwe mnbv lkjh
Per2: poi zxcv asdf
Per3: zxc iuyt hgfd
Per4: jhg erty vbnm

Okay, that one is too easy, but you get the idea. Person 1 and 3 were using the same cypher, while persons 2 and 4 were using their own.

[Raeyok]

My point is, most people, given enough time, can do it.

sure, if they had a year of free time.

[Wynd_Fox]

Not really, cryptograms aren't that hard. For most people, that is. I personally cannot do them at all.

[Raeyok]

Not really, cryptograms aren't that hard. For most people, that is. I personally cannot do them at all.

okay bro, do you really think someone is going to waste several hours of their time just to find out what some people in a Blockland server were saying?

also Minecraft server is down for now, I'll put it back up later.

[Wynd_Fox]

It doesn't take several hours, it takes like five minutes. And no, I don't think they'll take five minutes, but I still don't get why we're using this in lieu of whisper. All it seems to do is show those who don't have the cipher that they're being excluded.

[Raeyok]

It doesn't take several hours, it takes like five minutes.

oh god lol you know nothing about the process of decryption, do you

[Wynd_Fox]

I do, it takes like five minutes if it's just a simple text encryption, which I'm assuming it is. I haven't actually seen it, since I can't download it. Again, this is assuming it's a cryptogram level encryption. I haven't seen the actual cipher, and it seems excessive to make it anymore complex than that. If you'll give me an example of its cypher, I'll probably end up agreeing with you.

[Raeyok]

I do, it takes like five minutes if it's just a simple text encryption, which I'm assuming it is. I haven't actually seen it, since I can't download it. Again, this is assuming it's a cryptogram level encryption. I haven't seen the actual cipher, and it seems excessive to make it anymore complex than that. If you'll give me an example of its cypher, I'll probably end up agreeing with you.

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I'll let Gambsy explain to you how it works, then you'll see that it takes much longer than five minutes.

[Wynd_Fox]

Cool, that's what I wanted.

And still, why not just use whisper, which, while it still excludes, doesn't show everyone that they're excluded? Unless more than two people can be on the same cipher channel, in which case this has a different use, and is completely legitimate.

EDIT: I'm probably completely missing the point of this mod.

[Gambsy]

But if i explain it it makes it easier to crack :D

Edit:
As many peopole as you want can use this mod provided there using the same key, if not it appears jibberish to them. also say the server didnt have a wisper mod, this is all cliensided so can be used anywhere

[Wynd_Fox]

Oh, so it's completely different, that's cool. But how complex is the cipher? Because if it's one letter always represents another, then it's crackable. If it's more complex, then no one will go through the effort of doing it.

[Gambsy]

The letter changes are dynamic relative to two numbers, one set between the clients and one randomly generated
Below is a part of a log of the same message that was taken on a test i did ealyer which involved repeating the cipher twenty nine thousand times

hsgh asggous opq
alza tlzzhnl hij
mxlm fxlltzx tuv
epde xpddlrp lmn
ithi bthhpvt pqr
epde xpddlrp lmn
hsgh asggous opq
grfg zrffntr nop
cnbc vnbbjpn jkl
nymn gymmuay uvw
bmab umaaiom ijk
alza tlzzhnl hij
docd wocckqo klm
fqef yqeemsq mno
ithi bthhpvt pqr

Edit: there is theoreticly 676 combinations :P (Might be more just quick math)

[Wynd_Fox]

Cool, I was expecting something really simple, I take back what I said before.

[Gambsy]

also if it rly does need an extra layer of security i worked out part of a more muddeling way