Religious Stupidity

[Inv3rted]

Just wondering here, if some of you guys think that the world is completely random, then how is science possible? Why can we expect the future to be anything like the past? Why should the laws of physics apply during the next hour? How can you trust your memory? Complete randomness just doesn't work. It can't logically be a science, seeing that science is based off of expectation that if you do something, something similar will happen each time you do it. It blows itself apart. So how is the idea that the universe arose randomly a science at all? Its 100% religion, pretending to be science. Think about it. You wouldn't logically decide that it would be best if you got under cover because you never know when gravity is going to stop working. The world, and the laws of physics are logical, orderly, always work, always apply. Just like God.

Who said the universe is entirely random?

COOL STRAWMAN BRO

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[Arcleader]

There is no "randomness". Everything has a cause and effect.

So, what's the cause of the universe?

[Arcleader]

Who said the universe is entirely random?

COOL STRAWMAN BRO

So, if it's not random, who is the designer?

[Inv3rted]

So, what's the cause of the universe?

The whole point is that people don't know. One of the main things that poisons the religious mind is that there has to be absolute truths about everything, and that everything is known.

So, if it's not random, who is the designer?

lol wow

You're really going to assume there has to be a designer because something isn't random? Ever think it could be an infinite loop of cause and effect?

[Ronin]

So, if it's not random, who is the designer?

sub-atomic particles!

[fattysnacks]

So, if it's not random, who is the designer?

Who said it had a designer?

CHILLY FODDERSIR COMPANION

[Ronin]

Who said it had a designer?

CHILLY FODDERSIR COMPANION

Designer was Giorgio Armani sorry to spoil it for you lot.

[mrlolop]

Designer was Giorgio Armani sorry to spoil it for you lot.

Damn, I thought it was Fyodor Dostoevsky...

[Arcleader]

The whole point is that people don't know.

Then why don't you people accept our evidence-supported theories, and instead come up with you own? We claim to know!

Ever think it could be an infinite loop of cause and effect?

Erm... No, not really. The Bible offers a much more reasonable explanation, and, considering that the Bible is thousands of years old, and the writers were actually there, I am inclined to believe that. You are like the people that believed that the Earth is flat, and if you were to fall of the edge, you would fall forever. It is also completely impossible that the universe is infinite, since it is decaying (Third law of thermo-dynamics). It had to have a start.

[dkamm65]

So, what's the cause of the universe?

We don't know yet. We don't have a complete enough understanding of the universe to know.

That's the difference between science and religion. When scientist find a question that we have yet to find the means to answer, it is simply undetermined. Theists will just say "God did it."

Have you ever noticed in the early days of religion, almost every unknown wonder was explained by gods. As technology advanced, more and more mysteries were explained through the use of scientific discovery. Things like rain and the seasons were once thought to be controlled entirely by god. We now know these events occur very naturally. You see, it's only a matter of time until our species knows enough about life's mysteries to render gods completely redundant.

[Arcleader]

Who said it had a designer?

So, if its not random, not infinite, and doesn't have a designer, then how do you think it started?

[Arcleader]

We don't know yet. We don't have a complete enough understanding of the universe to know.

That's the difference between science and religion. When scientist find a question that we have yet to find the means to answer, it is simply undetermined. Theists will just say "God did it."

Have you ever noticed in the early days of religion, almost every unknown wonder was explained by gods. As technology advanced, more and more mysteries were explained through the use of scientific discovery. Things like rain and the seasons were once thought to be controlled entirely by god. We now know these events occur very naturally. You see, it's only a matter of time until our species knows enough about life's mysteries to render gods completely redundant.

Stop generalizing about religions. They aren't the same at all. I'm not saying Zeus is real. Yes, we know they are natural, but we also know that nature is decaying. Nature could not have come from nature. The Bible never claims anything like that the Earth is flat, and to which mysteries are you referring? Are you suggesting that you have discovered how gravity works?

[dkamm65]

Then why don't you people accept our evidence-supported theories, and instead come up with you own?

LOL

The Bible offers a much more reasonable explanation, and, considering that the Bible is thousands of years old, and the writers were actually there, I am inclined to believe that.

"A wizard did it" is not, I repeat, NOT a reasonable explanation.

You are like the people that believed that the Earth is flat, and if you were to fall of the edge, you would fall forever.

I'm ignoring this because you are a handicap.

It is also completely impossible that the universe is infinite, since it is decaying (Third law of thermo-dynamics). It had to have a start.

"Completely impossible", so you're an astrophysicist? The universe may well not be decaying. Have you ever heard of the big crunch?

Oh and if you said the universe had to have a start, then a god would have to have a start too.

Self-defeating arguments for the win.

[Inv3rted]

Then why don't you people accept our evidence-supported theories, and instead come up with you own? We claim to know!

This is the problem with people like you. These two sentences embody all of the conflicts religion has with knowledge: lies, false claims, delirium, and arrogance.

Nice job, you just shat on religion's reputation even more.

[Inv3rted]

LOL THERMODYNAMICS

This guy has no idea what he's talking about. Seriously, he expects stuff outside the universe to have the same laws as the universe? I hope he never holds office doing anything important.