Author Topic: thexor - "the bible says the woorlds gona end but i cant prove it"  (Read 9620 times)



Just a heads up: if God was created by something he's not really God.
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Just a heads up: if God was created by something he's not really God.
Why is that? If you were created by someone, does that make you not you?

I guess it depends on your definition of "God"

Just a heads up: if God was created by something he's not really God.

Well, technically he'd still be a God to us, but not a God to whatever made him.

:o

I really like how people always avoid my statements towards them.

Why is that? If you were created by someone, does that make you not you?

I guess it depends on your definition of "God"

God is commonly defined as omniscient and omnipotent. If he was created by something, he can't be either.

God is commonly defined as omniscient and omnipotent. If he was created by something, he can't be either.

In the monotheistic sense, yes, but other cultures have exceptions to how much power a god can have. For most old pantheistic faiths, gods are higher beings with control over a certain aspect of nature. Some of them are without an origin of their own (the African god Bumba appearing out of space and literally vomiting the world), or can be spawned from a different being (Zeus and his siblings emerging from the titan Cronos). This day and age, God would be expected by most people to be perfect in all ways, but most civilizations had differing ideas as to what could truly be considered a "god".

Now that I think about it, there are also parts of the bible that suggest the Lord may not be omniscient. Among the earliest of examples is the book of Genesis after Adam and Eve eat the apple, they manage to hide from the Lord's sight in the garden. There are plenty of contradictions on the matter of God's omniscience (among many, many other things.)

In the monotheistic sense, yes, but other cultures have exceptions to how much power a god can have. For most old pantheistic faiths, gods are higher beings with control over a certain aspect of nature. Some of them are without an origin of their own (the African god Bumba appearing out of space and literally vomiting the world), or can be spawned from a different being (Zeus and his siblings emerging from the titan Cronos). This day and age, God would be expected by most people to be perfect in all ways, but most civilizations had differing ideas as to what could truly be considered a "god".

Now that I think about it, there are also parts of the bible that suggest the Lord may not be omniscient. Among the earliest of examples is the book of Genesis after Adam and Eve eat the apple, they manage to hide from the Lord's sight in the garden. There are plenty of contradictions on the matter of God's omniscience (among many, many other things.)
Kay...

i just got at a part of the website that shrum posted and i saw this:

i just got at a part of the website that shrum posted and i saw this:

Are you trying to prove a point?

Also, why did you censor out the word love?


To be honest, don't bash my religion and I
won't bash your incredible lack of intelligence.

It's a win-win deal.

To be honest, don't bash my religion and I
won't bash your incredible lack of intelligence.

It's a win-win deal.

Opinions, learn to respect them.

Are you trying to prove a point?

Also, why did you censor out the word love?
yes! that god IS EVIL!!!!

yes! that god IS EVIL!!!!
I don't believe this. God allows for what man allows. While necessary evils exist that man cannot stop fully, much of our problems we cause ourselves. And as much as it may hurt God to see us suffer, God does not dissolve (For the most part. :o) freewill. God only shows us the paths, we must walk them. God only sends others to our side, we must choose to walk with them. And while God does not fix everything for us, certainly He or She doesn't just leave us.

God doesn't want all this pain and suffering. But Man must learn. And no greater is there a teacher than pain. Though, no greater a master is there than Love. c: