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Just a quick question.
What exactly is a carbine and how is it different from a rifle?
Carbines are shorter
The wider spread in video games simulates the weapon bouncing around more when not aiming. Therefore more spread.
But if you look, some bullets go down further, And according to newtons law, the gun goes up
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Just a quick question.
What exactly is a carbine and how is it different from a rifle?
From wikipedia:
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(A carbine) is a firearm similar to a rifle or musket. Many carbines, especially modern designs, were developed from rifles, being essentially shortened versions of full rifles firing the same ammunition, although often at a lower velocity. There have also been many cases where the carbine and rifle adopted by a particular nation were not technically related, such as using completely different ammunition or internal parts (though the carbine still being weaker, or of smaller size). Either may be more common, depending on the time period. There are also a limited number of pistol-caliber carbines, designed by integrating the action of a handgun such as a revolver or autoloader into a longer weapon with a rifle barrel and stock. They are generally employed as a more accurate alternative to a traditional handgun, and are used by some police teams and by civilian sport shooters

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A rifle is a firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder, with a barrel that has a helical groove or pattern of grooves ("rifling") cut into the barrel walls. The raised areas of the rifling are called "lands," which make contact with the projectile (for small arms usage, called a bullet), imparting spin around an axis corresponding to the orientation of the weapon. When the projectile leaves the barrel, the spin averages out curve from imperfections improving accuracy and prevents tumbling which improves range, in the same way that a properly thrown American football or rugby ball behaves. The word "rifle" originally referred to the grooving, and a rifle was called a "rifled gun." Rifles are used in warfare, hunting and shooting sports.

I object to Auto-Shotguns. There is an auto shotgun out there with less recoil than a 12 gauge. Ive seen small women fire it in short bursts from the HIP and they barley raise their arms.

I object to Auto-Shotguns. There is an auto shotgun out there with less recoil than a 12 gauge. Ive seen small women fire it in short bursts from the HIP and they barley raise their arms.
I object to this.
Since they are fully automatic, and you're not prepared for the recoil, you'd be shooting at the sky in milliseconds.

This isn't the Movies

I object to this.
Since they are fully automatic, and you're not prepared for the recoil, you'd be shooting at the sky in milliseconds.

This isn't the Movies


I give up. I have seen clips of it, and it is very real, but since im always ignored i will just back into my corner.

I give up. I have seen clips of it, and it is very real, but since im always ignored i will just back into my corner.
Ok.

I object to this.
Since they are fully automatic, and you're not prepared for the recoil, you'd be shooting at the sky in milliseconds.

This isn't the Movies

Because you're never prepared for recoil!!!!!!!!!!!!

I give up. I have seen clips of it, and it is very real, but since im always ignored i will just back into my corner.
1 post and give up?
Take it like a MAN

Because you're never prepared for recoil!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's not what I was trying to say.
I meant you might not be prepared for the amount of recoil generated by multiple shots, unlike the typical single shot.

I object to Auto-Shotguns. There is an auto shotgun out there with less recoil than a 12 gauge. Ive seen small women fire it in short bursts from the HIP and they barley raise their arms.
That's because they loaded birdshot. The gun is not responsible for recoil, the cartridge is.

M4A1. The "armalite"(M4/M16/AR15) family is an overall better choice over any Kalashnikov gun. The M4 has better modularity, is more ergonomic, looks better, and is just an overall better weapon to work with besides the maitence but, Pmags and good treatment make that less of an issue.

The armalite platform is a true and tried design that works, if it didn't so many guns wouldn't still be using the same design.
Soldiers complain about dust jamming their weapons all the time, it is definitely a much poorer choice of weapon. If you want a quick comparison, Deadliest Warrior IRA Vs. Taliban episode compares the AR-15 and the AK-47.  Not so many guns actually use the same design, any Stoner design is a colt M16/M4 model (which there are only a few different types of each gun). Even the ironsights on the AR-15 platform are absolute garbage. While the M4 does excel in being modular, I'd still say the Kalashnikov design is far superior. If anything, I'd argue that the Stoner platform is better for urban environments than engagements in harsh environments like the desert, jungle, or mountains. The Kalashnikov platform is well-equipped to suit any environment, be it urban or natural (Shortened "u" variants are extremely compact and therefore excel in CQC situations and the design is the same and therefore reliable).

Even more so, the AK design is much more simple than the AR design, making it easier to strip and repair on the field, and even easier to train conscripts, which is one reason it's used by guerrilla armies all over the world.

As for ergonomics, disagree again, after holding 2 AR-15's and 3 different types of AK model, I can safely say that the wooden solid stock is much more comfortable than the AR's synthetic stock, same with the grip (the synthetic grip on my airsoft AKM is also more comfortable than AR variant grips), but obviously this is just my opinion.
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This is pretty much all opinion I guess, I think the sights on AKs are loving garbage, horrible to look through. Modern M16s and M4s have the removable carrying handle making replacing sights much easier, same with much of the gun. If you want to change the handguard, stock, pistol grip, virtually anything on the weapon you can do so with ease and a wide selection range.

This is pretty much all opinion I guess, I think the sights on AKs are loving garbage, horrible to look through. Modern M16s and M4s have the removable carrying handle making replacing sights much easier, same with much of the gun. If you want to change the handguard, stock, pistol grip, virtually anything on the weapon you can do so with ease and a wide selection range.

A gun is like a subway sandwich.

A very deadly, modifiable sandwich.

This is pretty much all opinion I guess, I think the sights on AKs are loving garbage, horrible to look through. Modern M16s and M4s have the removable carrying handle making replacing sights much easier, same with much of the gun. If you want to change the handguard, stock, pistol grip, virtually anything on the weapon you can do so with ease and a wide selection range.

It pretty much is. I personally love AK sights. I honestly don't need all the tacticool garbage people strap to their M4's. Sure, it's neat to change aesthetics and modify a weapon, but a stock AK is beautiful, comfortable, and reliable straight out of glorious soviet production plant. However, comparing performance, the Kalashnikov wins hands-down.
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Vietnam war veteran David H. Hackworth recalled,
“   One of the bulldozers uncovered the decomposing body of an enemy soldier, complete with AK-47. I happened to be standing right there, looking down into the hole and pulled the AK out of the bog. "Watch this, guys," I said, "and I'll show you how a real infantry weapon works." I pulled the bolt back and fired 30 rounds — the AK could have been cleaned that day rather than buried in glug for a year or so. That was the kind of weapon our soldiers needed, not the confidence-sapping M16.

There's an entire wikipedia article on the comparison of the M16 and the AK-47.

Yuki:
1. I love your new avatar.
2. What do you think of desert eagles? I think they're badass.

You know what sights are absolutely amazing?

This



That's my Lee Enfield No4 MK I, I bought 2 weeks ago, I have it perfectly sighted in at 50 yards with iron sights.

2. What do you think of desert eagles? I think they're badass.
Overly popularized in media, but not a terrible gun. They're definitely not something useful in combat due to their large weight and massive recoil, but for the civilian they're a neat gun. Terrible for home defense if you have to shoot someone (unless you use hollowpoints), excellent for striking fear into someone.