Author Topic: TF2 Update Out! Trading!  (Read 55786 times)

I really want the scouts' milkman hat
I'll trade a doctor's mirror for it C:

Anyone have a softcap they don't want?
because i dont play tf2 lol!!!!!!!
« Last Edit: October 02, 2010, 07:41:36 PM by Tingalz »

got a napper's respite from an irl friend because i gifted him Gratuitous Space Battles

i guess being nice does pay off c:

No, it went from fighting, from buying stuff to make you really good at the game. And making you look cool with hats and clothes and other stuff nobody even needs what the forget
Then why are you complaining? Anything that modified the gameplay can be obtained ingame, fairly, and most of it is trivial. As for bitching about purely cosmetic items, what the forget? They're stuff nobody needs, so why whine about it?
Ex; 17$ no headshot hat.
You don't need to buy anything, you can find everything ingame, that's tailored for people who WANT to buy that stuff, not you, obviously.
0 skill to buy that kind of stuff. 0 skill to wear it and be immune to players who actually have the game and have the skill to headshot.
What does this even mean?
Plus seriously, OMG MY HAT IS PURPLE SO CUTE HUH LOVE IT.
So? Let people enjoy the hats. They don't affect gameplay so you have no reason to argue against them.
It's an fps. Why do you have to dress up your character and trade items? What the forget is going on valve. Are you guys handicapped?
It remains an FPS, none of the core gameplay has ever been changed. Adding supplementary features does not change the game.
Wow, I'm shocked at the extraordinary lack of thought that went into any portion of this post. This post was bad, and you should feel bad.

That's not what you said while we were closing the deal~

I AM SO CONFUSED RIGHT NOW.

I saw a pyro on this 2fort party server using the sniper kit. It's kinda cool how the pyro's flamer holding animation matches up almost perfectly with the sleeper.

Woo, I've got all the non-hat Polycount items except L'Etranger, the GRU, and the Vita Saw

I've also got 8 non-promotional hats, one of which I can thank Sue for randomly donating


Unless you want a scrap metal or two for it, I literally have nothing to offer

Wow, I'm shocked at the extraordinary lack of thought that went into any portion of this post. This post was bad, and you should feel bad.
There is something inherently wrong with having an incredibly rare item that can be bought for $17 give immense bonuses when paired with the rest of the set.


Another thing, I opened two chests and got two equalizers. I'm spending money and not getting anything in return. That isn't right.

There is something inherently wrong with having an incredibly rare item that can be bought for $17 give immense bonuses when paired with the rest of the set.
Many of the new items would be better without the set. Having only 3 rockets isn't as bad if you have a backup shotgun. Jarate+New knife=guaranteed full-on crits. Fast weapon switch flamer would go great with axetinguisher.

Another thing, I opened two chests and got two equalizers. I'm spending money and not getting anything in return. That isn't right.
I bought 3 lottery tickets and didn't win anything. I'm spending money and not getting anything in return. That isn't right.

Many of the new items would be better without the set. Having only 3 rockets isn't as bad if you have a backup shotgun. Jarate+New knife=guaranteed full-on crits. Fast weapon switch flamer would go great with axetinguisher.
The scout set is perfectly viable and having only 3 rockets isn't that bad. The fact that only some people have more than a ghost of a chance of completing the set is what ticks me off.

I bought 3 lottery tickets and didn't win anything. I'm spending money and not getting anything in return. That isn't right.
No, it's plenty right because you must be poor and stupid to buy a lottery ticket.
On the other hand, video game purchases are a service and should not be a lottery where you can lose more than you paid for. It doesn't actually cost valve anything to remove the weapons from the crate list and replace them with paints or other misc. items.


If people like you continue to argue for the milking of consumers we're going to see less quality in the video game market and more focus on cashing in. What compels you to agree with a system in which you also lose? Remember when games were fun and everyone was on an equal footing after they bought the game and didn't have to worry about buying anything else? You're killing that.

Unless you want a scrap metal or two for it, I literally have nothing to offer
I'll take 2 scraps then, since I really don't need it

No, it's plenty right because you must be poor and stupid to buy a lottery ticket.
On the other hand, video game purchases are a service and should not be a lottery where you can lose more than you paid for. It doesn't actually cost valve anything to remove the weapons from the crate list and replace them with paints or other misc. items.
Paying to open the chest is a gamble. Nowhere does it say that you will only get awesome rare items. So you got crap. Maybe next time you'll get something good. Maybe there won't be a next time and you can just trade any more crates you get for something you actually want.

If people like you continue to argue for the milking of consumers we're going to see less quality in the video game market and more focus on cashing in. What compels you to agree with a system in which you also lose? Remember when games were fun and everyone was on an equal footing after they bought the game and didn't have to worry about buying anything else? You're killing that.
Nobody has to buy anything. You could always wait for the drop. And it's not upsetting any balance considering none of these items are straight upgrades over existing items.

Remember when games were fun and everyone was on an equal footing after they bought the game
By the way, people who just bought TF2 won't have any unlocks.

Paying to open the chest is a gamble. Nowhere does it say that you will only get awesome rare items. So you got crap. Maybe next time you'll get something good. Maybe there won't be a next time and you can just trade any more crates you get for something you actually want.
When you pay on a video game where they don't have to make it a gamble, it should not be a gamble you can lose so much on.

Paying the $4.98 for two keys means that money is gone; it doesn't have to be a gamble because you can't get that money back out.
So when valve takes $4 out of that and basically says I only paid $1, I'm pissed off.
So why not make the item list include only items at or above the cost of the keys? It literally costs them nothing to do and doesn't really effect the game. Add a paint, add a new dueling item that gives 13 uses, and add 2 polycount pack weapons.
I don't see why not.

It's like I'm offering up a plan where you and I both get to keep all of the money in our wallets and you're arguing against it because its a gamble of whether or not it gets stolen by a pickpocket.

Nobody has to buy anything. You could always wait for the drop. And it's not upsetting any balance considering none of these items are straight upgrades over existing items.
Imagine this situation:
Player A has all the scout polycount unlock items. Player A is an extremely lucky forgeter. Player A has +25 hp
Player B has all the scout polycount items except the hat because he isn't some sort of demigod. Player B is at a disadvantage because he lacks the +25 hp.

And this one:
Player A has the option to be a sentry-busting soldier because he has all items of the pack
Player B does not have that option because he doesn't have the hat.
This isn't balanced.

It upsets balance because clearly if teams are of equal, high skill level, the team that has the polycount pack has a higher chance of success over the team that does not.

By the way, people who just bought TF2 won't have any unlocks.
Oh sure new people are at a disadvantage but it isn't one that requires them to spend more money in order to close the gap.
In any case, I made a mistake when I said remember because you clearly haven't played anything except TF2.
Please point out where I said pre-mannconomy tf2 was the absolute pinnacle of gaming and the most honorable development effort ever embarked upon.
Furthermore, those unlocks are a lot easier to get than hats. Keep in mind there are people who play very frequently who still only have one hat. Consider the implications.

I've played 400 hours of tf2 and I have found 6 hats. Probably 100 of that was after the hat update.


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It's like I'm offering up a plan where you and I both get to keep all of the money in our wallets and you're arguing against it because its a gamble of whether or not it gets stolen by a pickpocket.