Remembering Spore '05

[ID9962]

You're handicapped. Don't blame EA, blame the company that actually MADE Spore. EA just published it.

You are handicapped. Maxis made good games, they made GREAT games. Then EA came along and FORCED them to do things. Learn to do research, before you rage. EA did not "just publish it", EA owns Maxis, just as they own many other game company; EA help fund and build Spore, EA owns the rights to it, etc.

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Can you show me where it says EA made them change it.

[LegoEggo]

You are handicapped. Maxis made good games, they made GREAT games. Then EA came along and FORCED them to do things. Learn to do research, before you rage. EA did not "just publish it", EA owns Maxis, just as they own many other game company; EA help fund and build Spore, EA owns the rights to it, etc.

Maxis made good games, they made GREAT games. Then EA came along and FORCED them to do things. Learn to do research, before you rage.

Then EA came along and FORCED them to do things. Learn to do research, before you rage.

Learn to do research, before you rage.

you rage.

rage.

I was hyped for spore. I was like "ZOMG GONNA BE EPIC!!!!111", went out and bought it on the launch day. rushed home. Installed. Started it up, and played for a hour. I then broke the disk and uninstalled every EA game I had, and following broke their disks as well, I then proceeded to go down to my local game store and buy a few more copies just to break them. I hate EA. I hate EA a lot.

quotespam yeeeah

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I mean actual proof.

[LegoEggo]

I mean actual proof.

um my quotespam was not directed at you bro
quite obviously directed at mr. hypocrite up there, ID9962

[ID9962]

I mean actual proof.

1) Cell Stage

For some reason EA decided that the cells should be able to 'mate', well anyone who has done science class's or even who have not, KNOW cells reproduce 'aloveually' which means they DO NOT mate!! Cells simply split into 2 and reform. The original version used eggs however, however this was still 'wrong' it made alot more sense then 'mating'

Also if you watch the video notice how much more fun that version of Cell stage looks? To me that Cell stage just looks awesome compared to what we got.

2) Underwater Stage

Completley and uterly stripped. We were originally suppose to just 'blend' into the next stage by gradually moving into an underwater area, we then had a choice of staying underwater as a sea creatore OR adding legs.

This is said to be going to added in an 'expansion' as always with EA stripping content to be resold later, however I bet its not so 'blended' and is all clear cut dumbed down crap like the rest of the stages.

3) Creature stage

Notice how smooth the tranisition is? He adds legs and then swims onto the shore 'himself' there is no 'loading' screen and then 'Creature Stage' and instantly there with a nest of your fellow creatures. You swim onto land and have to go and start your tribe 'yourself' you gradually build up to that. This gives the creature stage alot more meaning and alot more for you to do and most likley makes it last longer and alot more dare I say it 'fun'

3a) Creature Creation

My god they destroyed this, every single part has stats now like an rpg, you are forced to use certain parts, you get no choice, well you do you can be a strong generic ugly creature or you can be a customised weakling that cannot win this stage. Fact is you NEED to use the parts with high stats to even think about getting past this stage. Originally doing such things as adding extra legs would make you faster not adding legs with a higher + speed stat, extra legs does nothing for you now, you can be just as fast with 1 leg as long as it is a fast one. The whole creation process got dumbified like everything else.

Skeleton editing got removed, all we can edit now is the Spine, there was alot more to customise back then.

What happened to all this 'procedural' stuff theat everyone oooed and ahhed about? The thing that made this game so awesome?, doing certain things to your creature made it stronger or faster, it wasnt stat based it was 'procedural', all we get now is maybe a procedural walk and dance which to me actually looks almost the same no matter what I do.

4) Tribe stage

Notice how once again this is not a clear cut loading screen then into a dumbed down mini game? it is actually still part of the creature area and he just gains the ability to drop a spear rack e.t.c and let them use spears and stuff. Also notice how much more customisable the tribe part is? and how much more fun it looks? and not such a pile of turd they gave us?

Notice how he does not start with a fully built camp? he has to build them a camp fire himself and has alot more control over his camp. Notice how he can even customise the stuff in 'tribe' phase.

5) The City Game

He can build roads? what? once again alot more advanced then what we got. Notice how his creatures are all wandering around between the buildings e.t.c, I have yet to see anything like that on mine if i see them at all they are just standing around and very few of them. Look at around 17:00 of the video, look at how advanced that city is, he chooses where his buiildings go and builds paths e.t.c e.t.c What did we get? we got a dumbed down peice of rubbish, with just 8 set out spots where we can put buildings and thats it, we cant put buildings whevere we want, we cant build paths, we cant customise the city much at all.

6) Civ stage

Pretty much part of the City stage, but notice how In his game he gains the spaceship e.t.c as an upgrade, something he builds towards, basically as he upgrades he gets the ability to get new buildings and new vehicles, like in a normal RTS/Sim. He does not have to 'convert or destroy so many towns to advance', thats just a part he can take part in.

Also notice how the getting the space ship isnt like 'OMG Space stage' lets completley reload and utterly start a fresh game in space and get rid of everything we just done, its a smooth transition.

7) Space Stage

This stage failed before it even started for us. They already tell us every single thing we download, which actually is not much at all, I log on everyday and it download like 10 thing at most each time about 2 or 3 are creatures. But the fact that I can see everything it downloads just utterly destroys the whole original concept of space stage. The idea of Exploring and 'browsing' other players worlds.

Exploring other players worlds, oh this got completley taken out. notice he says 'this enitre world was created by another player' . That also does not happen for us, all we get is creatures and buildings e.t.c downloaded and the game randomly places these on random planets, the planet is random the content is player created but the towns ont hese planets were not created by the player the places the towns are random, the buildings they use are random.

The Light game, I do not know if this was kept but I do not think it was, if it is in the game I guess I gave up on space so quick i did not get it. But the idea of this was you basically played a close encounters type music and lights and the other civ decided if they wanted to be friends ror wanted to attack you. It was not a dumb *** message coming up everytime you fly near their planet saying 'Hey what do you want!?!'

Conclusion

Basically as you will see if you watch the video and play the actual game, this game was dumbed down to such a crummy level it is harldy worth playing anymore. What they originally had in 2005 was an incredible game and would have lasted years of playing without getting boring. What they gave us in September 2008 was a destroyed game. True some of the parts they removed they will give us as 'expansions' they will also charge us another $50-$100 for something we should have already had, and it will most likley but just as dumbed down as the rest of the crap they gave us.

So basically EA just have done as they always done, they took an amazing idea and destroyed it, some of it because of their own stupidity and some of it to try and sell to us later as an 'expansion'. I have always always always hated EA, but when I heard about Spore I thought maybe they might actually redeem themselves, then when they said they were releasing in Europe before USA I thought wow thats a first, then once again Ea proved they are scum and always will be.

Before people start saying 'it was over hyped'. it WAS NOT hype! It was REAL and done! watch the video, this was actually in the game, created and working, it was 'removed' and 'dumbed down'. Watching this video just makes me sigh and feel incredibily dissapointed at what could have been and what has been and what never happened. I wish EA would release the 2005 version, even if it is buggy as hell.

I didn't write that.

Also, I'm not a hypocrite, I never said I wasn't rageing.

[LegoEggo]

if you didn't write it where'd you find it

[Bisjac]

http://bisjac.net/bisjac/images/spore%20epic.png

me getting the epic killer achievement on tail's monster lol

[Visage]

Sounds like quite the waste of money to get absolutely zero point across.

I hated them so bad, so like I went and paid them $300, and then I forgetIN BROKE THE DISCS THAT COST THEM PROBABLY LIKE 2 forgetIN CENTS TO MAKE.


:shades:

[ShadowsfeaR]

My dad helped work on spore. He said they aimed at the wrong target audience. :\

[ID9962]

if you didn't write it where'd you find it

"How EA ruined Spore" - Google.  /failure to cite work properly.
http://www.google.com/search?q=how+ea+ruined+spore

I hated them so bad, so like I went and paid them $300, and then I forgetIN BROKE THE DISCS THAT COST THEM PROBABLY LIKE 2 forgetIN CENTS TO MAKE.


:shades:

More like, I ruined my towns inventory of the stuffty game so no one could buy it for a week, then got the only good place that sells it to disapprove of its buying. (The DVDs and case coast roughly $4 to make)

[LegoEggo]

"How EA ruined Spore" - Google.  /failure to cite work properly.
http://www.google.com/search?q=how+ea+ruined+spore

still failing, when you cite something you link to it not a google search.

[ID9962]

still failing, when you cite something you link to it not a google search.

Notice the failure I mentioned..No? Well try the first link, or all the links, since they are all rages on how EA ruins stuff.

[Solid]

-snip-
I didn't write that.

Also, I'm not a hypocrite, I never said I wasn't rageing.

Alright then, you win.

[Oasis]

Dear god, I said remembering Spore '05, not bashing each other about who's fault it was.