Marijuana

[yuki]

We cannot scientifically prove that you do or do not physically become dependent to marijuana.

Yes, we can. It's called "biochemistry" and it's a science well over a hundred years old.

And sure you can get addicted to anything. You can compare marijuana to caffeine and food, but neither have been proven to cause permanent damage. The fact about marijuana is that we just don't know enough about it. Just like everyone thought tobacco was harmless, but we really just had never thought it could have caused harm until everyone started using it.

You mean aside from all of the research been put into studying marijuana from the past 70 years?

The moral problem with it: Even if we assume that it doesn't cause very much damage, if it were legal it would probably be abused just like alcohol. People would have college students going to parties to get stoned and die. People would get in wrecks and harm other people. People would describe how awesome it is to get high and next thing you know you have kids who don't even know how to spell it that want to try it.

Everything in this paragraph is uneducated and stupid. Nothing here is of any factual value. You did no research on the subject and ignored everything previously said in this thread. I cannot even begin to type an argument. Everyone is dumber for reading this and you should feel bad.

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[Sandvich]

How do you hurt yourself on marijuana

Me and a bunch of other people did it a month ago, all that happened was I had a good time and watched a movie.
:U

[Iban]

Everything in this paragraph is uneducated and stupid. Nothing here is of any factual value. You did no research on the subject and ignored everything previously said in this thread. I cannot even begin to type an argument. Everyone is dumber for reading this and you should feel bad.

That has been added to my signature.

[Katamari007]

Everyone is dumber for reading this and you should feel bad.

I forgot how to math because I read that :c

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No, there isn't anything in marijuana to addict you.  It is a mental addiction, the person believes they need it, rather than their body actually developing a need for it.

[Tom]

Yes, we can. It's called "biochemistry" and it's a science well over a hundred years old.

Yeah I guess your right, but biochemistry doesn't cover the element of how society would use drugs.

You mean aside from all of the research been put into studying marijuana from the past 70 years?

There's research that shows marijuana has both good and bad effects. Problem with most of the research is that we can't use a truly random sample. For example, with my schizophrenia study, how do we know that the people who just happened to smoke weed were already at risk for schizophrenia. Or with a study that said weed smokers don't do well in school, how do we know that it's not the other way around.

Everything in this paragraph is uneducated and stupid. Nothing here is of any factual value. You did no research on the subject and ignored everything previously said in this thread. I cannot even begin to type an argument. Everyone is dumber for reading this and you should feel bad.

First of all, barley anything in this topic is researched or of factual value. Second, my paragraph makes sense with logic. If people abuse one legal and socially accepted drug, what makes you think they aren't going to abuse a different drug. McDonalds isn't the only food that obese people abuse.

Now on to my other argument why legalizing recreational marijuana is morally incorrect and bad for society: Let's once again assume that marijuana doesn't cause any major permanent harm, so if it was legal we would basically have instant pleasure with not side effects or guilt. That would be horrible for society. Instead of people figuring out productive ways to use their time, we have people who just deicide to get high. Once they are high, the chances of them getting anything done is pretty much 0 for awhile. We don't want society to look like this, do we?

Is any of the possible risk really worth the chance for some stupid people to feel good? It's not something we need like food, or even caffeine in todays fast-paced society.

[Daedalus]

Better not eat chocolate then. It stimulates your brain, causes endorphin creation. Oh and forget that caffeine, that's a nervous stimulant. Can't use aspirin, either.

Anyway, THC doesn't "forget with your brain". It binds to your cannabinoid nervous receptors (Bet you didn't know you had a cell membrane specifically designed for cannabinoids) in order to activate (stimulate) the receptor and produce the brown towngesic effects cannabis is known for. If it's the smoke that disgusts you, I can sympathize, but then what do you think about baking it into food? It's virtually tasteless in cookies, but the effect isn't nearly as strong.

COMMON MISCONCEPTION:

What people think happens when you smoke Marijuana:
http://www.deviantart.com/download/124773398/Coloring_book_on_LSd_by_NotsoLugubrious.jpg

What really happens: You get the overwhelming feeling of being light and relaxed. Things are funnier, you smile a lot. If you're really blazed your visual framerate drops and your perception of things becomes slightly altered (In that, I find it feels like I'm dreaming for a period of time). You also become a bit inattentive and forgetful, and music becomes really powerful in that you're more focused on it. Most people find themselves really focused after becoming high, and become productive. It isn't a hallucinogen.

Oh trust me, friends have told me tons of times what they felt like when they were on it. I know it's not like LSD in any way.
And chocolate/caffeine don't remove your cognitive abilities and problem-solving abilities like drugs do :/

[Tom]

And chocolate/caffeine don't remove your cognitive abilities and problem-solving abilities like drugs marijuana dose :/

Exactly.

[Messes]

Ooohhh, I know why all you are against it when you see your "friends" doing it.

I know loving why.

I KNOW.

Because they are all god damn tweaks, do dumbass stuff that makes them look handicapped, and cannot control themselves, therefore leading you to believe that's how everyone is treated.

forget man. People get over that "tweaking" phase not long after starting.

It's been one year for me now, and I can just sit back, relax, enjoy music, enjoy food, and watch TV.

Also, you guys have to stop saying things as if Marijuana does it to everyone. That is not the case. It is different for everyone. It DOES improve my logical thinking, and especially problem solving. Even math. Note: That is if i'm not really stoned out of my mind. Then i could care less, and just listen to music.

[Tom]

Making marijuana legal for recreational use would be like opening a pandora's jar. Yeah, there's the best case scenario where everybody uses it responsibly, and there is the worst case scenario were everybody abuses it and society falls apart. We would all probably agree that realistically it would be somewhere in between. And it's not even worth a small amount of risk, and once we make it legal it would probably be hard to make it illegal again. Yeah sure this might be considered a "free country", but any person who truly cares about this country would want to keep everyone in it as healthy as possible so we can compete with other countries. The only good thing that comes out of is some pleasure and possibly some tax money. But there are ways that we can make more taxes by actually making the country healthier, like more junk food taxes.

[Iban]

pandora's jar

Jar of what? Pot Brownies?

[Messes]

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Jar of what? Pot Brownies?

Hell yes

[HelplessNobb88]

Cigarette companies should be allowed to make a cigarette variety with marijuana instead of tobacco.

[Sandvich]

There is marijuana thats legal here lol

[Rekuddo]

Is any of the possible risk really worth the chance for some stupid people to feel good? It's not something we need like food, or even caffeine in todays fast-paced society.

Not all potheads are stupid people, it depends on your personality, you don't just smoke and become a completely different person and loose your mindset, for me I smoke a bowl every night, it relaxes me. I am fully under control whenever I smoke, whenever my mouth get's dry, I drink water. Any type of pain feels like it melts away, I just sit back and watch a movie, sometimes I even feel creative and work on something like writing. The only reason why people get "hurt" is because they're not under control, you have to be calm and collected when you go into it and you can't have the mindset that "Wow I'm gonna get forgeted up" because it will ruin your trip. Also if you're new to using marijuana and not used to handling it, do it some place that's calm and stress-free and don't get paranoid because that will ruin your trip too.

There is marijuana thats legal here lol

Actual plants? Or just that so called "Legal-bud" that is just herb with synthetic THC sprayed on it?