Opinions - Should we destroy the last bit of the smallpox disease?

[Stocking]

Well, here we go again.

"I will never have children"
Would saying that make me so horrible and cruel just because I prevent my future wife from ever getting pregnant? (just an example)

It doesn't matter, you'll never have children anyways. That's natural selection, not murder. まほ～

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[Kalphiter]

It doesn't matter, you'll never have children anyways. That's natural selection, not murder. まほ～

But I prevented a child from being born, did I not? So doesn't abortion do the same thing?

By the way guys, if you want to debunk this, you need to try asking about what defines human life.

[Stocking]

But I prevented a child from being born, did I not? So doesn't abortion do the same thing?

No, preventing conception isn't ending a human life, so using contraceptives is perfectly alright. Abortion on the other hand, destroys already-conceived life that has it's own unique genetic makeup and is just as "alive" as any other human being.

By the way guys, if you want to debunk this, you need to try asking about what defines human life.

Sperm and egg aren't human life because they don't have the DNA that makes them human, personally I believe human life starts when the entire biological future of the child is mapped out; which occurs at conception.

[Kalphiter]

And why does just one cell (or anything less than a fetus) really matter?

There are many points on the timeline at which the parents could have prevented the child from being born (including not getting pregnant at all). But, why should they keep suffering because of a mistake they've made? If they can pay for it, they can get an abortion. The whole thing is invalidated by inconsistency of abortion laws across states and nations.

[Stocking]

And why does just one cell (or anything less than a fetus) really matter?

Why does any life matter? Really, everyone else can just go die as long as you continue to get enough food, water, and adequate accommodation. The only reason humans are important is because we're humans, and therefor the value we place on any human life should logically equal that of our own. Sure the fetus isn't immediately going to start writing Shakespeare or disprove Einsteinian theory, it's an immature form of human life taking shape, only discernible from a baby because of what we're able to immediately see with our 5 senses no matter how illogical a conclusion we may draw. まほ～

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Lol.

What the forget ever happened to separation of church and state?

Also I've never smelled a fetus.

[Shadowed999]

Because abortion is totally related to video games.

[Kalphiter]

Why does any life matter? Really, everyone else can just go die as long as you continue to get enough food, water, and adequate accommodation. The only reason humans are important is because we're humans, and therefor the value we place on any human life should logically equal that of our own. Sure the fetus isn't immediately going to start writing Shakespeare or disprove Einsteinian theory, it's an immature form of human life taking shape, only discernible from a baby because of what we're able to immediately see with our 5 senses no matter how illogical a conclusion we may draw. まほ～

It could become a human, it could become a miscarriage, it could be a good child, it could be a bad child. The parents could not have a baby.

The "could be a baby" doesn't work. These are all predictions, of which a person can control whether or not they may happen. Consider it unethical, but don't make it against the law.

[Stocking]

Lol.

What the forget ever happened to separation of church and state?

Also I've never smelled a fetus.

They're seperated?

...and no I'm not religious, I'm a humanist.

Humanism
A secular ideology which espouses reason, ethics, and justice, whilst specifically rejecting supernatural and religious dogma as a basis of morality and decision-making.

It could become a human, it could become a miscarriage, it could be a good child, it could be a bad child. The parents could not have a baby.

The "could be a baby" doesn't work. These are all predictions, of which a person can control whether or not they may happen. Consider it unethical, but don't make it against the law.

It's already a baby, it's already a human being, it's simply immature.

[Shadowed999]

Hey guys, make sure you tell your girl that you dont want a baby and that she should get her tubes tied/cut/something.

[Stocking]

Hey guys, make sure you tell your girl that you dont want a baby and that she should get her tubes tied/cut/something.

Not a bad idea, if you want to save yourself the trouble of murdering a human being because you can't take care of it. まほ～

[Shadowed999]

Not a bad idea, if you want to save yourself the trouble of murdering a human being because you can't take care of it. まほ～

Yes,you all are so dumb.

[Kalphiter]

It's already a baby, it's already a human being, it's simply immature.

Certainly a sperm and an egg are two halves of an immature being?

[Shadowed999]

Certainly a sperm and an egg are two halves of an immature being?

Why do you want to kill babies so much?

[Kalphiter]

Why do you want to kill babies so much?

I don't plan to get an abortion for somebody, but it isn't something the government should control.