Opinions - Should we destroy the last bit of the smallpox disease?

[Stocking]

Here's our disagreement. I don't think the being becomes a human just because the body works, a human being is not flesh and bone, a human being is mind and soul. If a body is braindead, it's not a human. A human being can think and learn and speak and feel and smell and see and tell its mother from a ceramic vase. A human is emotion, not function.

See, from a humanist standpoint, a human being is mind and body, there are no such things as souls. When the brain is sick, the mind is sick, as the mind is nothing more than a cauldron of chemical reactions that fools itself into thinking its something more. A body that is brain dead is different, because the brain is dead, as in was once living but has since ceased to be. A fetus isn't brain dead, it's brain is very much alive, however immature it is.

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[Squideey]

Why wouldn't you just let women remove their fetuses if they want to?

[Pulchritude]

Why wouldn't you just let women remove their fetuses if they want to?

It would be simpler if the fetus wasn't conscious or alive.

[Stocking]

Why wouldn't you just let women remove their fetuses if they want to?

Because the fetus dies as a result. Same reason Microsoft doesn't have the rights to nuke their headquarters.

[DrenDran]

I say no. Aboration is only for people who are love addicts and can't get a life.You complain they don't have lives, then you complain when they try to take lives.

If you get a girl pregint, you can't just sayIn some states you can, I believe., "Oh no, my condom broke. Oh well, let's just get an abortion. There we go, I can start all over agian."

No, this is what supposed to have happend, "Oh no, my condom broke. Oh well, shouldn't have done it in the first place. Where's that gun agian." (One less idiot yay).Self Delete is good abortion is bad, well, at least that means you're an atheist.

Also, child salsmen are using this as a good marking techince. Kidnap a girl, make someone pay 25 dollers to do her,The woman doesn't need to get "pregnate" as a part of the process. get her pregnate, ABORNTION, repeat.

So, I won't get into the crap that you are killing a human life, and how your be sorry later in life.Remorse is a different story, some people can kill adults and not feel any. But still, just don't do it.

Read the bold.

[Bisjac]

lol religious views

"no jesus loves babies!"
"oh rape"
"yeah then its ok to kill the fetus go ahead"


dur

[Pulchritude]

lol religious views

"no jesus loves babies!"
"oh rape"
"yeah then its ok to kill the fetus go ahead"


dur

I was about to rebut that, but then I realized it was kinda true...

[Mr.jacksaunt]

I say yes.
If you so happen to knock someone up, will you provide money, food, shelter, and take care of this baby?
Having a baby is a huge commitment, and birthing the child is extremely painful. If a woman doesn't what to have a child, it's her body, it's not like the male makes the decision of having this baby.
Why does everyone care so much about how controlling other peoples bodies?

[Squideey]

BABY DIE.

[Stocking]

I say yes.
If you so happen to knock someone up, will you provide money, food, shelter, and take care of this baby?
Having a baby is a huge commitment, and birthing the child is extremely painful. If a woman doesn't what to have a child, it's her body, it's not like the male makes the decision of having this baby.
Why does everyone care so much about how controlling other peoples bodies?

Because there are some people that would kill themselves recreationally huffing freon if we let them.

If the woman didn't want to have the baby, there are a plethora of different contraception methods that can be taken.

[StarDust]

Teenager aborting is even worse.

[Pulchritude]

I say yes.
If you so happen to knock someone up, will you provide money, food, shelter, and take care of this baby?
Having a baby is a huge commitment, and birthing the child is extremely painful. If a woman doesn't what to have a child, it's her body, it's not like the male makes the decision of having this baby.
Why does everyone care so much about how controlling other peoples bodies?

Because it's not as simple as not wanting a woman to feel the pain of birth or being able to provide for the child, the problem lies with the fact that the baby is a living, sentient being. It may grow up to be the next Ghandi, the next Einstein, the next Riddler, and so on. It's all in the ethics, not in the physiology.

[Jetlok]

/giygas joke!

[Squideey]

Because it's not as simple as not wanting a woman to feel the pain of birth or being able to provide for the child, the problem lies with the fact that the baby is a living, sentient being. It may grow up to be the next Ghandi, the next Einstein, the next Riddler, and so on. It's all in the ethics, not in the physiology.

The baby is a living, sentient being with as much knowledge and memories as toothpaste. AHEHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Caution]

I personally think its up to the mother. I think whatever she wants to do is fine. If she's barely scraping by and her life is stuff, you can't bring up a baby in such an atmosphere; if you give it away then you'd probably feel guilty for "abandoning" it.

I say yes. Its not technically a human, imo.