The Ion Cannon: Where have i seen this before?

[Pentium]

According to Wedge, the only people who would use BC/any alternative mod manager would be those who are banned from RTB., therefore having an alternative wouldn't cause any damage. If people start using an alternative mod manager out of curiosity, but realise noone posts content, they will switch back. This means having free competition would be risk-free.

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[Ephialtes]

Well now you've just provided a pretty decent argument dissuading anyone from investing the time required to make something to 'compete' with RTB.

[Bisjac]

don't want competition now. you wouldn't wanna lose all that money you are making lol

[Sheath]

I'm a "high horse" because I'm not siding with you, right?

Hold the bullstuff for once, would you.

You've seemed to have missed a rather important point (which is the be-all end-all for your petty complaints). Ephi created RTB. This gives him the right to do whatever the forget he wants with his service as-long as it's not treading on Baddy's toes. Your ban is warranted. Ephi's "extended priority" is also warranted, as it is his service; and he is acting to maintain it in an orderly fashion. The rules apply to everyone; I don't know why you feel like it's an injustice if you get the stick for breaking them.

You have missed an even bigger point. I don't care what Ephi does regarding matters within his service. If he wants to force users to distribute add-ons with pictures of his face stamped all over them, or make every add-on pink with no flat shading, I don't care. My point is Ephi uses his position and his grasp on Blockland, and takes it beyond RTB. He went outside of both of his roles and targeted a website offsite. And then with a bit of smooth talking he thinks all the rest of us won't notice this was an intentional and motivated action. I'm not discussing this to come up with a great resolution so we can all hug each other and kiss ass once again. I'm just saying Ephi has a pretty twisted way of handling things now days, and I truly believe this is because he is letting the power of RTB and his position at the forums get to his head just a little. I don't remember Ephi acting the way he has recently when he first released the retail edition of RTB. And as I said before, you can go with the negligent "hes an admin deal with it" logic, but that gets nobody anywhere. If people are going to bitch about matters like discussed in the OP, any service should be discussed indepth and the creators should listen, whether you or they like it or not.

And I'm sorry Boltster, but for someone who only managed to claw their way back onto the forums with the hordes of other people who used the automated system, you sure aren't being humble about it. Like many before you, you have come to a topic and focused on a trivial side point for an opportunity to bitch. If you want to join the ACTUAL conversation and matter thats being discussed here, please do return when you have something appropriate to say. Its no coincidence you have been whoring my posts recently.

[Mr Man]

I have mini nuke, ioncannon, deathioncannon, and adminioncannon. Mini nuke is most fun but ion cannon blows op HUGE things.

[ßoltster]

Ok. I reread the whole topic to make sure you won't accuse me of not acknowledging your previous posts.

My point is Ephi uses his position and his grasp on Blockland, and takes it beyond RTB. He went outside of both of his roles and targeted a website offsite.

Ephi is limited to what he can do to you. He cant deactivate your key. He can't stop you from joining servers. He can't stop you distributing addons. What he can do is stop you from using his service. That is his limit. He can't take it beyond RTB, because beyond RTB he doesn't have any control or power.

So that said; how did he take it beyond RTB? I'm not talking about his intentions, I'm talking about his actions. What did he actually do that affected you outside of your RTB use?

[Pentium]

He banned Icy from RTB due to content that wasn't on RTB. Please use the small brain you have.

[ßoltster]

He banned Icy from RTB due to content that wasn't on RTB. Please use the small brain you have.

So that said; how did he take it beyond RTB? I'm not talking about his intentions, I'm talking about his actions. What did he actually do that affected you outside of your RTB use?

Being banned from RTB is within his control of RTB, not beyond it. That is my point.

[Sheath]

Ephi is limited to what he can do to you. He cant deactivate your key.

No, but he mentioned "Badspot considering" to do it in a threatening way. I doubt the legitimacy of him saying that, but it goes to show while he might not be able to deactivate my key first hand he sure as hell can try to pull a few strings.

This has quickly turned into a moot point now. I'm just saying, Ephi does have a problem with failed add-ons beyond what he tries to tell you. I'm disliking this dishonesty, but as you said Bolster he has done some pretty dirty questionable things within RTB and the forums, so I guess its no suprise.

[ßoltster]

as you said Bolster he has done some pretty dirty questionable things within RTB and the forums

When did I say that

[Sheath]

When did I say that

Oh sorry, it must have been someone else.

[Narkro555]

Personally, I see no problem with an alternate to RTB, but the system in RTB is extremely handy. I don't plan on ever uploading hated/failed add-ons (coughDinnerBlasterV1), but I certainly see what Sheath means. The "monopoly" over add-on posting gives an enormous amount of power to Ephi, but he is trustworthy. If not a bit over-cautious.

I think the only reason people collect add-ons like the Ion Cannon is because it makes them feel empowered (because others want them) and/or nostalgic. The Ion cannon is a perfect example of something that should be failed, considering it can cause immense lag in areas of high brick concentration.

[Pentium]

Anyone remember when Ephi and Lub DDoS'd Kalphiter's hosting service? He never got punished for it, either Badpot didn't care, or he just never saw it.

[Destiny/Zack0Wack0]

My point is Ephi uses his position and his grasp on Blockland, and takes it beyond RTB. He went outside of both of his roles and targeted a website offsite. And then with a bit of smooth talking he thinks all the rest of us won't notice this was an intentional and motivated action.

He targeted the website because the creator (cucumberdude) outright admitted to not storing the passwords securely. It's not about whether he fixed it (which I agree, is 99% likely that he did) it's about whether this could happen again. Even worse, someone might store it insecurely purely because they want the passwords. (see: Poiyt or whatever it is, who stole TomTheGeek's password this way) THIS is Ephialtes' reasoning. A rate blocklanders service does not need an account system.

I would actually disagree with the failing of the topic if it wasn't for the fact that cucumberdude has done some completely handicapped things before. He did a WHOIS call on my domain, pulled the contact info results off and posted a topic saying "Is Zack0Wack0 blah blah who we think he is?" with the contact details in the content. That's right, he posted someone's real life address onto the forums with a phone number. Luckily it actually wasn't my details, because I'm not the owner domain. I can tell you right now, if it had been my contact details I WOULD HAVE BEEN loving PISSED. As you can see, I'm pissed off just thinking about it. I would not trust someone who does something as stupid as that with passwords.

No, but he mentioned "Badspot considering" to do it in a threatening way. I doubt the legitimacy of him saying that, but it goes to show while he might not be able to deactivate my key first hand he sure as hell can try to pull a few strings.

He made a human threat. It may have not been a cause for a key deactivation, but it was definitely a reason to report you to Badspot. Imagine yourself as Badspot: how would you feel if someone went out of their way to make an entire website dedicated to breaking a rule that you enforce?

Anyone remember when Ephi and Lub DDoS'd Kalphiter's hosting service? He never got punished for it, either Badpot didn't care, or he just never saw it.

Yeah, that was a bad move on his part. But why should Badspot care? If I remember correctly it was Lub who carried out the attack, Ephialtes just pointed out the security hole in Kalphiter's management system or whatever the hell it was.

[DrenDran]

I WOULD HAVE BEEN loving PISSED.

That he took information that was apparently public on one website and posted it on another website?
If it would have been already on the internet for anyone to look up, why's it such a big deal?