I have lost faith in society

[Cybertails1998]

You forgot the indian religion

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[Sheezy]

I take offense to this, as I am a Buddhist myself. Viewpoints with no higher power are not ways of trying to live everything moral free, even as they may be used as such. Scientologists, as crazy as they are, do have morals, else they wouldn't be driven to do the acts that they do. As for Buddhists, we do believe in a higher power, it just isn't a deity. The higher power is best explained as the universe and truth itself, and our morals are centered around attempting to improve ourselves and make our lives into a paradise. Actual Buddhists do a lot of thought into the universe and themselves, and if you see that as shallow and weak minded simply due to the lack of a deity, then what does that say about how open minded you are about things? The mass majority of people who are rooted in a deistic religion are simply only that way because their parents and community were like so, and that they were never taught to do any thinking into the universe at all. If rejecting everything else and calling it wrong and only calling your religion isn't shallow minded, then I don't know what is.

As for the rest of your rant, for the most part I agree.

You forgot the indian religion

That's Hinduism, and that's a deistic faith.

[Dodger]

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Ok, I think I did go a bit overboard on that part, I apologize. I just want to say that society has become too individualistic, and celebrities who are lost inside tend to go to religions such as Buddhism and Scientology where there isn't as much divine judgement, and most likely aren't true believers and followers of that faith. I'm more trying to target permissive society also. I will fix that part.

[Sheezy]

Ok, I think I did go a bit overboard on that part, I apologize. I just want to say that society has become too individualistic, and celebrities who are lost inside tend to go to religions such as Buddhism and Scientology where there isn't as much divine judgement, and most likely aren't true believers and followers of that faith. I'm more trying to target permissive society also. I will fix that part.

Buddhism isn't that common among celebrities to my knowledge. It's easier to be atheist because there is no divine judgement, and yes I do dislike the people who call themselves Buddhist just to look deep.
Plus Buddhism isn't exactly permissive, because it does have rules. Just because there is no divine judgement doesn't mean that it isn't highly frowned upon to break them.

Though really even at that, you're making sweeping generalizations. Most of the people I know who are Buddhist or Atheist arn't the way you describe, and they tend to think even more about other people instead of desiring to disregard rules of society that are just simply there to prevent others from harming others.

[Dodger]

Though really even at that, you're making sweeping generalizations. Most of the people I know who are Buddhist or Atheist arn't the way you describe, and they tend to think even more about other people instead of desiring to disregard rules of society that are just simply there to prevent others from harming others.

True, I can't really press the advancement of permissive society and obsessive individualism on 1 to 2 groups. I don't think Athiests are the root of all these problems, its usually ignorant people who aren't in these groups who want more individualistic rights while ignoring the importance of traditions.

[devildogelite]

The reason religion is fading away is cause its complete bullstuff. Music has always been about love, kids were never interested in learning, and gangs have always existed. Also the whole moral thing, was it moral back in biblical times when people were stoned for stupid stuff? I hate people like you so much

[Nexus]

The reason religion is fading away is cause its complete bullstuff

this

[Sheezy]

True, I can't really press the advancement of permissive society and obsessive individualism on 1 to 2 groups. I don't think Athiests are the root of all these problems, its usually people who don't care.

Then don't pin it onto any religions, pin it onto the people who want society to be permissive.
Personally I don't think that's too much of a problem, as the majority of these problems have always been around. The more major one is how the relatively unintelligent people are outbreeding the intelligent people, and that the government is attempting to strip our rights away more and more.

The reason religion is fading away is cause its complete bullstuff

For the most part.

[devildogelite]

I read your post again and it was so loving stupid its unbelievable, like it enrages me you can even have this thought process.

[Sheezy]

I read your post again and it was so loving stupid its unbelievable, like it enrages me you can even have this thought process.

He seems like he's a religious person due to how he's saying that the decline of certain religions is a sign of the decline of society, and due to his stance on abortion.

[devildogelite]

Then don't pin it onto any religions, pin it onto the people who want society to be permissive.
Personally I don't think that's too much of a problem, as the majority of these problems have always been around. The more major one is how the relatively unintelligent people are outbreeding the intelligent people, and that the government is attempting to strip our rights away more and more.
For the most part.

I agree on the government part, but the unintelligent people outbreeding part is stupid, because one parents are dumb has no indication on the children and what proof do you have they are outbreeding exactly?

[Sheezy]

I agree on the government part, but the unintelligent people outbreeding part is stupid, because one parents are dumb has no indication on the children and what proof do you have they are outbreeding exactly?

Statistics have shown that people who end up dropping out of highschool are more likely to have more children at an earlier age than people who choose to go through college.

[devildogelite]

Statistics have shown that people who end up dropping out of highschool are more likely to have more children at an earlier age than people who choose to go through college.

Which statistics?

[Sheezy]

Which statistics?

http://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p20-563.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/653365
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=5794948

[Bisjac]

poor people make more babies. statistically true.
poor people are uneducated. statistically true.
poor people raise stupid kids. statistically true.

or more specifically; stupid parents raise kids to be stupid. this cycle of offspring remain poor and uneducated. poor and uneducated dont contribute to society.

killing is cheaper and quicker then fixing.

therefore; kill all poor people = improving the world.