Author Topic: Why is U.S.A. fighting in Afghanistan.  (Read 7430 times)

Yes, It makes absolutely no sense to send men to war over oil. If the soldiers knew they were fighting over oil they wouldn't volunteer because it would be pointless.

if we wanted oil, there would be no conspiracy. after the 2 countries were flattened we would have straight up told the world we are keeping the oil.
there is no shame in treating yourself to the spoils.

Pakistanis are helping Al Qaeda. Fyi lol

if we wanted oil, there would be no conspiracy. after the 2 countries were flattened we would have straight up told the world we are keeping the oil.
there is no shame in treating yourself to the spoils.

On course with this...

Something occurred to me recently.  After constantly hearing people's opinions on how the US is terrible for involving itself in the Middle East and that we're only doing it for oil, I realized - why would that be such a problem?

Many of history's most documented and memorable conflicts, wars, campaigns, and/or empires have all had one thing in common...they were motivated by the pursuit for external resources (i.e. spoils).  This is the way history works.  If you want something, you take it.  To assume otherwise seems illogical.  The argument that the US should not be in the Middle East is based off of the assumption that we are there for humanitarian purposes...to liberate troubled governments and tribes from the oppressive yoke of Islamic radicalism.  Perhaps this is the rhetoric that US leadership has fallen behind, but if we were in fact there to obtain oil in order to stimulate our own economy, why is that bad? 

Various countries of Europe settled the Americas and exercised influence in Africa during the Age of Exploration for the purpose of economic and political gain.  The Roman Empire conquered nearly all of Europe for the purpose of economic and political gain.  Of course, not everyone agrees that these endeavors were favorable in nature, but the parties who are pissed off are typically the ones who have nothing to gain or no involvement in the matter.

It can be said that civilization was the result of selfish strides for land and resources by early cultures in Mesopotamia.  Of course many more factors play into these examples, but in the end the purpose of occupying a foreign land was to strengthen the homeland.  Whenever I hear arguments accusing the US of being invasive and "only in it for the oil," I wonder why it would be such a bad thing if that were the case.

I am not using this argument as a justification for our presence in Afghanistan, I am merely stating that IF the motive behind deploying our military to the Middle East is to obtain oil then (using history as a precedent) there is nothing wrong.

Something occurred to me recently.  After constantly hearing people's opinions on how the US is terrible for involving itself in the Middle East and that we're only doing it for oil, I realized - why would that be such a problem?

Because that would tarnish the American image of the US Military being liberators fighting oppressive governments for the people's freedom and make them look like imperial starfishs.

we should just kill all the brown people. take the oil.

We are there to help the country and to ensure another 9/11 doesn't happen.

but

of all days, why would they pick 9/11


Mainly for oil, hunting al-Qaeda and telling all extremist Islamic groups "we own this now forget off".

Mainly for oil, hunting al-Qaeda and telling all extremist Islamic groups "we own this now forget off".
lol now that I can believe

We are helping Afganistan keep their oil feilds from being taken over by Iraq terrorists.

The more oil a country has, the more profit it makes.

We are helping Afganistan keep their oil feilds from being taken over by Iraq terrorists.

The more oil a country has, the more profit it makes.
Ok thats more believable than the US going into Afghanistan for Oil

Ya know, I would back the war too if it didn't forget up the economy more

He was an starfish and needed to be put down, we're doing the same thing to Al Gaddafi.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/19/libya-nato-bombing-civilian-casualties_n_879903.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk3|71670

Now he called a global Jihad against America and the west because NATO killed 9 civilians including children. Is having a global Jihad against America and the west really worth trying to take over a leader who did not even effect America until we felt like helping. Can't we leave countries alone?

but

of all days, why would they pick 9/11
Actually, it was entirely coincidental.