Your Stance on Laws (Or punishment); Today's Topic: Abortions

[stuntman021]

"proven to be mentally stable"? Really? You just said "normal people don't just go out and murder other people, something causes that", which is true.

which is true in most cases. but if it was, say, a gang related murder, and they can't be trained away from that, that's when you use prison.

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[asablief]

it's only justifiable in certain circumstances. the number one purpose of jail should be to rehabilitate someone for their crimes. normal people don't just go out and murder other people, something causes that. people can be taught not to commit crimes, you just have to try. if they can't be taught and are proven to be mentally stable, then yeah, capital punishment for severe crimes.

The normal human minds knows that there is something terribly wrong with murder. You'll find that some incredibly successful people had horrifically stressful lives and were abused by their parents. There is NO excuse for murder. If you don't think there's anything wrong with murder you ought to be in a mental hospital, then jail.

There's no logic in that. You're killing someone who killed a person so you are doing exactly the same thing. Capital punishment is handicapped. At least if they're put in jail and released after some years they may have learned something out of it. When you kill them, they can't.

You're right! We should just let murders go, because they're such good people when they come out of prison, right?
Who gives a damn if a murderer gets killed? His victim probably had family. The muderer probably doesn't have any family that haven't disowned him.

You don't understand. Let me put it this way, would you much rather live your life knowing you murdered your family, or put an end to your life right then and there? Murderers aren't normal people. They're insane. Keeping them captive whilst their insane like that can lead to severe torture to the human mind.

Good. If it was my daughter I would want him to go through as much torture as possible before death.

[Nymethus]

which is true in most cases. but if it was, say, a gang related murder, and they can't be trained away from that, that's when you use prison.

So, in what case do you use execution? Cause I didn't get that

[Custard]

Well, normally execution is looked at as a seemingly simple form of punishment. If you kill someone, you get killed yourself. But what if you killed two people? When they invented the death sentence, they didn't think through the actual punishment properly, they just wanted to rid the Earth of a horrid soul.

[captain blue]

what you do is you surgically attach the mouth of one murderer to another murderers star fish

[masterockets]

Kill someone for murder, or let them be stuck in jail with other murder-ers that would probably kill them

[stuntman021]

The normal human minds knows that there is something terribly wrong with murder. You'll find that some incredibly successful people had horrifically stressful lives and were abused by their parents. There is NO excuse for murder. If you don't think there's anything wrong with murder you ought to be in a mental hospital, then jail.

see, this kind of attitude is ass-backwards. people can be trained away from these behaviors and become fully functioning members of society if you actually put in the time and effort to instead of just locking them up. rehabilitation should be the primary focus of jail

[asablief]

see, this kind of attitude is ass-backwards. people can be trained away from these behaviors and become fully functioning members of society if you actually put in the time and effort to instead of just locking them up. rehabilitation should be the primary focus of jail

No, I don't want my daughters murder to be loving changed into a new guy, he's still the guy who murdered my daughter and I want him loving dead. If you polish a turd it's still a turd. If you "rehabilitate" an starfish it's still an starfish.

[Nymethus]

No, I don't want my daughters murder to be loving changed into a new guy, he's still the guy who murdered my daughter and I want him loving dead. If you polish a turd it's still a turd. If you "rehabilitate" an starfish it's still an starfish.

nope

[asablief]

nope

nice one

[Ningyou]

You're right! We should just let murders go, because they're such good people when they come out of prison, right?
Who gives a damn if a murderer gets killed? His victim probably had family. The muderer probably doesn't have any family that haven't disowned him.

See, this is why humans are sadistic forgettards. If you kill the murderer you are doing the same as he did, the same crime he did. Only difference: It's justified. It makes no sense. If they're so dangerous, then keep them in jail for their whole life. There's no need for them to die. If you really hate them that much for their crime and want them to suffer then I agree with what Custard said. Being in jail probably forgets your mind up big time, it's ten times worse than death.

[stuntman021]

No, I don't want my daughters murder to be loving changed into a new guy, he's still the guy who murdered my daughter and I want him loving dead. If you polish a turd it's still a turd. If you "rehabilitate" and starfish it's still and starfish.

someone's past should not reflect on their future in a meaningful way. if you do change someone, then they're not the same starfish. they're a new (hopefully) non-starfish. it's better to have a productive member of society than a corpse.

[Custard]

Rehabilitation is a bunch of bullstuff. The human mind is flawed. Once the human mind reaches that point of stupidity, it cannot go back. Therefor, the best punishment for murder would be a life sentence in prison.

[stuntman021]

Rehabilitation is a bunch of bullstuff. The human mind is flawed. Once the human mind reaches that point of stupidity, it cannot go back. Therefor, the best punishment for murder would be a life sentence in prison.

and how do you know this? are you a neurologist?

[asablief]

See, this is why humans are sadistic forgettards. If you kill the murderer you are doing the same as he did, the same crime he did. Only difference: It's justified. It makes no sense. If they're so dangerous, then keep them in jail for their whole life. There's no need for them to die. If you really hate them that muh for their crime and want them to suffer then I agree with what Custard said. Being in jail probably forgets your mind up big time, it's ten times worse than death.

I still want to see him die, so I can get some sort of feeling of justice for my dead relative.

someone's past should not reflect on their future in a meaningful way. if you do change someone, then they're not the same starfish. they're a new (hopefully) non-starfish. it's better to have a productive member of society than a corpse.

No you see, my relative was killed by a bastard savage. Changing the bastard savage into a new bastard savage wont bring back my dead relative.

and how do you know this? are you a neurologist?

Excuse me, but what the forget do you know, anyway?