Author Topic: Cubelands, you have no idea.  (Read 12224 times)

Stocking, from what I've seen in this page, you have my respect.

Stocking, from what I've seen in this page, you have my respect.

This.

Poor furling. I kinda feel sorry for him with everyone beating on him.

This.

Poor furling. I kinda feel sorry for him with everyone beating on him.

I know.

I don't exactly see why everyone's calling him an idiot.

I never said perfect English. I expect someone to be able to type a sentence that at least has some form of grammatical structure.

I can understand what he's saying.

Hearing has almost nothing to do with reading, save being told how to read, and since to me it seems like furling is smart enough to read and understand, he doesn't need to learn how to read.

Lmfao what do you think reading is? It's writing down the words we use everyday, and your brain equates the patterns in writing as words.

He can read about grammar.  He can learn English grammar, it might be harder for him then for example you or me, but he still can.

Like I said before, I don't expect ANYONE to type with 100% perfect grammar, I do expect it to be somewhat intelligible though.

How about a challenge then? Take 4 weeks learning Japanese through only text and nothing else. I'll see if you can even hold a simple conversation or even make a coherent sentence. It really can't be done that way, it would take way too much time and dedication to learn something that is essentially foreign without any other media than text.

I can understand what he's saying.
Depends on the sentance, sometimes I have to read it twice, sometimes it's fine.
Lmfao what do you think reading is? It's writing down the words we use everyday, and your brain equates the patterns in writing as words.
What does that have to do with hearing?
How about a challenge then? Take 4 weeks learning Japanese through only text and nothing else. I'll see if you can even hold a simple conversation or even make a coherent sentence. It really can't be done that way, it would take way too much time and dedication to learn something that is essentially foreign without any other media than text.
There's a difference, first off, I never said he had to do this in 4 weeks or any specific time.  Second, he knows English to some degree already.  He can read, that should be obvious, therefore, he can head about grammar.  I'm not asking him to learn the whole English language.

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Ok, stop being a friend, and just stop arguing.

There's a difference, first off, I never said he had to do this in 4 weeks or any specific time.  Second, he knows English to some degree already.  He can read, that should be obvious, therefore, he can head about grammar.  I'm not asking him to learn the whole English language.

It's pretty much impossible to learn grammar without listening to it, to know how it sounds and to know how to use it correctly.
Now just stop jumping Furling and go away. Just stop trying, because you aren't winning.

So essentially it's a flaw in the ASL?
Well, you could look at it that way. Though language is language, the way he sees it we're talking in a flawed manner.

Ok, stop being a friend, and just stop arguing.

It's pretty much impossible to learn grammar without listening to it, to know how it sounds and to know how to use it correctly.
Now just stop jumping Furling and go away. Just stop trying, because you aren't winning.
Ok I'm going to list out what I'm saying, tell me where I'm wrong.

He can read.
He can read about grammar.
He can read about how to use proper grammar.

What you people don't get about what I'm saying is: He already knows a good chunk of English, he just has to improve his grammar.

Now to be completely fair, if he uses some sort of translator or English is not his first language, then I am completely sorry.

Another thing, this is the internet, he could just be out for attention.

Well, you could look at it that way. Though language is language, the way he sees it we're talking in a flawed manner.
A in ASL = American. Since the primary american language is English, you would at least expect them to model their sign language after English.

Depends on the sentance, sometimes I have to read it twice, sometimes it's fine.

Yeah so what's the big deal?

What does that have to do with hearing?There's a difference, first off, I never said he had to do this in 4 weeks or any specific time. 

Yeah but it takes a long loving time to learn a language that way, and it's easily the worst way to go about doing it. The point was is that in 4 weeks you'd pick up nothing because that way is ridiculously slow and arduous. I learned Japanese from people around me speaking it and from hearing it on television, which is the same exact way I learned English. I taught myself German through just text I found online and my German is loving horrible, the sheer amount of tedium required to learn a language that way makes it completely impractical, and it's a blessing that I'm not deaf because I'd probably struggle to speak a single language were it not for my hearing.

Second, he knows English to some degree already.  He can read, that should be obvious, therefore, he can head about grammar.  I'm not asking him to learn the whole English language.

Yeah so he knows enough English to read and talk, which is a pretty significant feat for a deaf person learning a second language.

And what do you mean "head about grammar"?

Ok I'm going to list out what I'm saying, tell me where I'm wrong.

He can read.
He can read about grammar.
He can read about how to use proper grammar.

-He can read.
-He knows some grammar.
-Even if he does, he will not fully understand it.

As I've stated: It's impossible to fully understand grammar without listening to it.

Now to be completely fair, if he uses some sort of translator or English is not his first language, then I am completely sorry.

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My frist language is American Sign Language.

Another thing, this is the internet, he could just be out for attention.

Like you are right now, by trying to win an argument on an online LEGO-themed building game forum.

I know no person who would lie about being deaf. If so, then that would be a sick joke.

Just stop trying, because you aren't winning.

Yeah so what's the big deal?

Yeah but it takes a long loving time to learn a language that way, and it's easily the worst way to go about doing it. The point was is that in 4 weeks you'd pick up nothing because that way is ridiculously slow and arduous. I learned Japanese from people around me speaking it and from hearing it on television, which is the same exact way I learned English. I taught myself German through just text I found online and my German is loving horrible, the sheer amount of tedium required to learn a language that way makes it completely impractical, and it's a blessing that I'm not deaf because I'd probably struggle to speak a single language were it not for my hearing.

Yeah so he knows enough English to read and talk, which is a pretty significant feat for a deaf person learning a second language.

And what do you mean "head about grammar"?
Read about grammar.

See my only problem is that he already knows English to a huge degree.  Why not use that English that he knows, to read about the structure of English sentences, and maybe improve his own.

It doesn't have to be in a day.

It doesn't have to be in a week.

It doesn't have to be in a month.

-He can read.
-He knows some grammar.
-Even if he does, he will not fully understand it.

As I've stated: It's impossible to fully understand grammar without listening to it.
I don't even fully understand grammar and I can listen to it, he can at least TRY to improve his.
Like you are right now, by trying to win an argument on an online LEGO-themed building game forum.
You are too.
I know no person who would lie about being deaf. If so, then that would be a sick joke.
People lie about a lot of things, for benefits and other such things.

By first language, I meant written language, his seems to be English.


Even so I've lost the heart of what I was trying to say at this point.  So to refresh I say this.

He can improve his grammar, there's nothing stopping him from doing that, just something slowing him down.

You're seriously being a friend right now.

Read about grammar.

See my only problem is that he already knows English to a huge degree.  Why not use that English that he knows, to read about the structure of English sentences, and maybe improve his own.

It doesn't have to be in a day.

It doesn't have to be in a week.

It doesn't have to be in a month.

I don't even fully understand grammar and I can listen to it, he can at least TRY to improve his.
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And you obviously don't know what it's like to be deaf. Get your facts right before you try another comeback.

You are too.

No, I'm standing up for someone. There's a big difference.

People lie about a lot of things, for benefits and other such things.

By first language, I meant written language, his seems to be English.

Just stop trying.

I've seriously had enough of you now. Just stop trying to win and get out.

When did Stocking become awesome?

You're seriously being a friend right now.

Read about grammar.

See my only problem is that he already knows English to a huge degree.  Why not use that English that he knows, to read about the structure of English sentences, and maybe improve his own.

It doesn't have to be in a day.

It doesn't have to be in a week.

It doesn't have to be in a month.

I don't even fully understand grammar and I can listen to it, he can at least TRY to improve his.


And you obviously don't know what it's like to be deaf. Get your facts right before you try another comeback.

No, I'm standing up for someone. There's a big difference.

Just stop trying.

I've seriously had enough of you now. Just stop trying to win and get out.
You don't know what it's like to be deaf either!

Though if you are deaf you know grammar in which case you proved my point.



Again: There is nothing stopping him from learning the grammar of a language, just something slowing him down.