What is your Religeous Affiliation?

[Amade]

Because the complexities I listed could not happen by chance.  Even the 2^nd law of thermodynamics defies Evolution.

2^nd Law of Thermodynamics states that:
Order --> Randomness
Complex ---> Simple

Evolution states that:
Randomness --> Order
Simple ---> Complex

Where exactly does evolution state these things?

You almost always have to learn evolution in school.
I dont have to learn about God.
I dont have to go to church every week.
Would I still be brainwashed?

or just crazy?

Are you trying to make a point here? You're not coherently forming one.

It still puzzles me why atheists bother to fight. What's the point of doing anything if you're eventually just going to turn into dust?
When I look around me, at this world, this life... it just all comes together so perfectly that I know it can't have been thrown into existence by some "scientific" chance. How could our organs have all learned to function in harmony to make up our beings? How were humans alone given the power of knowledge above all other animals? If matter cannot be created or destroyed, how could the universe have been created? How is it possible for the universe to continue on for infinity, without any restrictions? There are countless questions to which no one can answer, and never will. God may sound like a ridiculous fantasy, yet every part of life supports his existence.

What's the point of doing anything if life on earth is completely inconsequential compared to the life after death?
Atheists tend to lean towards a relatively hedonistic lifestyle, their purpose of life is the pursuit of pleasure. However, you could easily say that the purpose of life for most religious people is the pursuit of pleasure in the afterlife.

Our organs did not simply learn to function in harmony. Our organs developed over hundreds of millions of years. I'm certain with a bit of searching you could find detailed accounts of how various organs came to be.
The dexterity of human hands combined with increased intelligence lead to the development of tools which gave humans a very distinct advantage in the world. Even monkeys have a fair advantage over predators, I've read of monkeys mocking tigers (or some other predator) secure in the knowledge the tiger would not be able to reach them up in the trees.
The universe will almost certainly not continue on for an infinite duration of time. See the Wikipedia article Ultimate fate of the universe.
How does every part of life support the existence of God? Surely if it did, atheists, who at least on this forum are usually born and raised as Christians but come to question and eventually deny the existence of God through reason, would be far less common (and not the majority as the poll shows).

Like canons positioned on two sides of a meadow firing at will, the sounds of their blasts echoing on the fields, drown any voices of reason or peace. Their only goal is to force the other into submission, or else overpower the sounds of their blasts, failing to realize that each has unlimited ammunition and neither will ever be willing to withdraw.

That's an awfully cynical description of what's going on here. I'm not sure what you're seeing of other posters but my goal here is to inform, not to dominate.

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[Wesley Williams]

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The purpose of life for Christians is to act out God's will, and to do as he commands us. Our life's purpose is not to just sit around waiting for the afterlife, but to reach out and gain new members of God's family.

Can monkeys do math? Their knowledge is limited, unlike ours. It's hard to explain, but there's a very distinct difference between humans and animals. Humans have been chosen to rule over them, it didn't just happen out of nowhere that we developed and understanding for the world.

I have questioned whether God exists, but then I touch my hands, the walls, and look around at everything there is in this world and think, "This can't have just happened." The fact alone that I exist astounds me. That's what I see when I look at life.

[Fauly]

even though im atheist i find the whole idea of the theory of evolution and the big bang ridiculous
i mean its like there was nothing.... but it exploded and made everything
or
"i am a fish but i would like to eat some land food"-grows arms and legs-"that was handy"

[*Magick* Mage]

That's an awfully cynical description of what's going on here. I'm not sure what you're seeing of other posters but my goal here is to inform, not to dominate.

I wasn't describing what is going on here necessarily, I was just commenting on what Wesley was saying about why folks bother to fight on the matter. You have every right to inform, just as others do to help some seek salvation of some sort, its just many also take part in the so called battle solely to have their voice heard, prove themselves right, and or another wrong.

But that's hardly important, I suppose, so long as it doesn't apply to you. Reason still reaches the reasonable. But then I guess the unreasonable are those that need reason the most...hmm......

[fred da kiko]

even though im atheist i find the whole idea of the theory of evolution and the big bang ridiculous
i mean its like there was nothing.... but it exploded and made everything
or
"i am a fish but i would like to eat some land food"-grows arms and legs-"that was handy"

have you actually read darwin's theory of evolution or the theory of the big bang?

[dkamm65]

I have questioned whether God exists, but then I touch my hands, the walls, and look around at everything there is in this world and think, "This can't have just happened." The fact alone that I exist astounds me. That's what I see when I look at life.

It did just happen.

[Amade]

The purpose of life for Christians is to act out God's will, and to do as he commands us. Our life's purpose is not to just sit around waiting for the afterlife, but to reach out and gain new members of God's family.

Would you be doing it if there was nothing in it for you? Or perhaps rather, would you be doing this if you weren't being threatened with suffering unimaginable agony in a fiery pit for all of eternity?

Can monkeys do math? Their knowledge is limited, unlike ours. It's hard to explain, but there's a very distinct difference between humans and animals. Humans have been chosen to rule over them, it didn't just happen out of nowhere that we developed and understanding for the world.

First of all, DOGS can do math. It's just a matter of how long it takes them to LEARN - humans are very quick learners.
While it is true that it didn't happen out of nowhere, it's not just a matter of "god did it". A simple google search will return more information on the topic than one could hope to read in years.

I have questioned whether God exists, but then I touch my hands, the walls, and look around at everything there is in this world and think, "This can't have just happened." The fact alone that I exist astounds me. That's what I see when I look at life.

It didn't just happen. It happened over 13.7 billion years (that's 13,700,000,000). The universe is an astoundingly old place, everything here has had plenty of time to get here.

[Nom|Aplem|Nom]

Haha, oh wow.

[Wesley Williams]

Would you be doing it if there was nothing in it for you? Or perhaps rather, would you be doing this if you weren't being threatened with suffering unimaginable agony in a fiery pit for all of eternity?

I suppose I would be debating with others over the creation of the universe, yes.
And Hell is not some "fiery pit" or whatever crap, that's all this made up stuff that makes people believe Christianity is full of lies. Hell is the absence of God.

First of all, DOGS can do math. It's just a matter of how long it takes them to LEARN - humans are very quick learners.
While it is true that it didn't happen out of nowhere, it's not just a matter of "god did it". A simple google search will return more information on the topic than one could hope to read in years.

How did we become such quick learners? I just feel that every human has a soul with a conscious, where as animals do not. They simply adapt to their environment. Does that mean that you could have been a dog?

It didn't just happen. It happened over 13.7 billion years (that's 13,700,000,000). The universe is an astoundingly old place, everything here has had plenty of time to get here.

Well I've just always thought, wouldn't the sun have died after 13,700,000,000 years? Does that mean that with enough time, nothing can become something?

[Gojira]

Wesley, the sun was supposedly formed about only 4.87 billion years ago, from what I remember.

[Wesley Williams]

Wesley, the sun was supposedly formed about only 4.87 billion years ago, from what I remember.

Yes, but I thought he was saying that life developed over a period of 13.7 billion years. From what I remember while studying evolution, they said the earth was formed around then.

[dkamm65]

Well I've just always thought, wouldn't the sun have died after 13,700,000,000 years? Does that mean that with enough time, nothing can become something?

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The sun is not 13 billion years old.

Yes, but I thought he was saying that life developed over a period of 13.7 billion years. From what I remember while studying evolution, they said the earth was formed around then.

What the hell were you reading to study?

The Earth is about 4.5 billion years old.

[DrenDran]

and according to atheists it all came from an explosion that appeared out of nowhere

sure

Atheism != belief in the big bang.

[Gojira]

Yes, but I thought he was saying that life developed over a period of 13.7 billion years. From what I remember while studying evolution, they said the earth was formed around then.

Oh, I see.
I personally agree with you Wesley.

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The sun is not 13 billion years old.

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the sun was formed about only 4.87 billion years ago, from what I remember.

[dkamm65]

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You posted that while while I was typing for forget's sake.