The fight against family values needs to be more explicit in message

[Dodger]

Are they saying the emotion of hate towards anything is an easy choice you can back out of, even if it isn't towards a social group or general group of people? And the choice to be homoloveual is not actually a choice but something you are forced to do? Is the general emotion of hate more restrain-able than loveual tendencies, no matter what they may be? I wish people for social causes like this would actually use specific arguments that are harder to misinterpret.

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[asablief]

No, you can't be born gay. That just doesn't make sense, the largest instinct in the human body is "make babies", which cannot be done by sticking your richard up someones ass, and the only thing powerful enough to override it is the mind. That's when you make the choice to be gay.

If we could have random loveual sides when we were born then snakees wouldn't be strictly for males. Being brought up gay is different story but you can still make a choice to be straight, like you can make a choice to be gay.

I have nothing against gays, as long as they don't rub it in my face then act like they can't do anything about it.

[Vegetarian Zombie]

Wow.

[asablief]

And no, when someone says something against your loveuality, they're not "robot hate machines of hateness and death that wants to murder all homo's on the planet", they just loving disagree with you.

[Dodger]

And no, when someone says something against your loveuality, they're not "robot hate machines of hateness and death", they just disagree with you.

And apparently not supporting the loveuality is hate too

[tikitai]

opinions, theyre the reason of every single conflict in mankind

[Gojira]

they're "robot hate machines of hateness and death that wants to murder all homo's on the planet"

It's annoying when people assume this.

[Jacob/Lee]

I, honestly, have no effin idea how people are gay. Born that way? Personal choice? Hell if I know. Nonetheless, I don't care what they choose as long as they don't try to hit on me or rub it in my face.

[Mega-Bear]

I respect people's opinions to be homophobic as long as they solidly justify their discrimination. To this date, I have not heard a single good argument against loveual toleration. In fact, I've heard some really horrible ones. Grammar cleaned up, "I hate gays because they stick their richards up guys' asses and get AIDS" is by far the most ridiculous, obnoxious, ignorant excuse I have ever had the misfortune of hearing.

[asablief]

I also hate how i'll go to prison for an extra 20 years if I hit a gay man then if I hit a straight man. This stupid make believe "hate-crime / hate-speech" is discriminatory and unconstitutional, and just plain loving ridiculous IMO.

[Mega-Bear]

I also hate how i'll go to prison for an extra 20 years if I hit a gay man then if I hit a straight man. This stupid make believe "hate-crime / hate-speech" is discriminatory and unconstitutional, and just plain loving ridiculous IMO.

I don't think you can get arrested for hate crimes for hitting a gay unless it's specifically because they're gay ... right?

[asablief]

they'll use it against you in their case 95% of the time.

Hell, they might not even be gay, they could just be pretending to put you away longer.

[Mega-Bear]

well thats gay

[DrenDran]

I think both sides are way over-estimating the idea of 'free will'.
They're both just emotions / base instincts that are evoked in people based on how they were raised, and what kind of life they currently live.

[Qwepir]

No, you can't be born gay. That just doesn't make sense.

People are born with mental disorders all the time.