Pokémon VG Megathread

[Khorde]

Houndoom vs Flareon gogogo

Houndoom:

Here's why.

Crunch is special in 3rd gen.
As is flamethrower, Solarbeam and Sunny day.

It's a special sweeper.

Flareon can't have physical fire moves, so his 130 attack is wasted. he SUCKS pre 4th gen

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[Vegetarian Zombie]

true, true

but I think he can learn double-edge, can't he? or am I being stupid again?

[Regulith]

Actually, is Spiritomb better than Mismagius?

My current planned team is

Magnezone
Blastoise
Clefable
Zoroark
Heracross

with Mismagius as my 6th, but now I'm kinda iffy...Spiritomb seems like a more defensive Pokemon and I feel like I've got too many defensive Pokemon already

AND THE SHINY VERSION OF SPIRITOMB LOOKS SOOO GOOOOOOD

[Wynd_Fox]

I'll take any kind of Spiritomb, on White.

[Khorde]

Magnezone
Blastoise
Clefable
Zoroark
Heracross

Magnezone would be better with more of a movepool. But hell, he's a great electric type.
Blastoise... I love him, not pure power, but balanced.
Clefable. I've tried to make one, but it didn't work.
Zoroark is pretty damn good. Make sure you get extrasensory on him.
Heracross is kinda slow, but his Megahorn and Close combat make him a beast.

Mismagius > can forget your stuff up, give it thunderwave and confuse ray with shadow ball and thunderbolt

Spiritomb > wall. Toxic and protect are cool.

[Vegetarian Zombie]

They are both good Pokemon.

Spiritomb is, as you said, a tank-y Pokemon. Its low health and speed, as well as Poison being its only resistance, means it will need support even though it has no weaknesses.

Mismagius has the Psychic and Dark weaknesses, like all Ghosts, but it has a great 105 in Special Attack, Special Defense, and Speed.

Health is slightly better than Spiritomb's, but Defense and Attack plummet. But, as a Ghost-type, technically Mismagius shouldn't really need to rely on either too heavily.

Magnezone = Special Sweeper
Blastoise = Physical Tank
Clefable = Totally depends on the set you're running
Zoroark = An incredibly tricky Sweeper, probably Physical, can run Special
Heracross = Physical Sweeper

You don't have as much tanky stuff as you think. You're running 3, potentially 4 Sweepers with Clefable.

[Vegetarian Zombie]

Okay, two new thoughts

Ducslops vs Gengar

Houndoom vs Charizard

because I can catch Gengars and Charmeleons in this cave

[DracoSoul]

charizard, gengar

[Vegetarian Zombie]

I was planning on Gengar since it's such a damn good Pokemon

However, with Houndoom vs Charizard, I need a compelling argument for/against each


EDIT:

FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU

I'm back at the cave armed with 18 Great Balls and can't find any more Gengar

[Wynd_Fox]

Aren't you doing a Nuzlocke challenge?

[Vegetarian Zombie]

Decided against it for the time being

I will do it at some point, but for now I just want to beat the stuff out of the Battle Frontier with Pokemon from the first 3 generations

[Khorde]

Magnezone = Special Sweeper
Blastoise = Physical Tank
Clefable = Totally depends on the set you're running
Zoroark = An incredibly tricky Sweeper, probably Physical, can run Special
Heracross = Physical Sweeper

Okay here's where you're incorrect.

Manezone is way to slow to be a sweeper. He's a tank. He's a special tank, but he sucks at hitting all areas.

Blastoise is more special defense tank than anything. He's a damn water type. stuff son.

Zoroark is special. not physical. why you even considered physical is beyond anyone's logic. He has good attack, but not good enough physical moves to make him an avid battler in that area.

Heracross is, like the above, too slow to be a sweeper. He's a physical tank if anything, but his typing is lacking.

You need to really hit the books on pokemon competitive battling. I don't think you quite understand everything completely. I hope to help you in your travels

[Vegetarian Zombie]

Okay here's where you're incorrect.

Manezone is way to slow to be a sweeper. He's a tank. He's a special tank, but he sucks at hitting all areas.

Blastoise is more special defense tank than anything. He's a damn water type. stuff son.

Zoroark is special. not physical. why you even considered physical is beyond anyone's logic.

Heracross is, like the above, too slow to be a sweeper. He's a physical tank if anything, but his typing is lacking.

You need to really hit the books on pokemon competitive battling. I don't think you quite understand everything completely. I hope to help you in your travels

I don't really know too much about Magnezone, I only play Gen III
Same story for Zoro

I had a mental lapse on Blastoise, so I'll give you that one


How in God's name is Heracross supposed to TANK.

[Khorde]

How in God's name is Heracross supposed to TANK.

80 base HP averaging around ~ 167 HP the standard Hera at LV50
75 base DEF ~ 90 DEF at 50
95 base SDEF ~ 115 SPDEF at 50.

Decent, yet not very effective tank. 5 resistances. 3 weaknesses. Limited movepool.

Sweeping is not recommended because at MOST Heracross can have 150 speed at 50. That blows.

[Vegetarian Zombie]

80 base HP averaging around ~ 167 HP the standard Hera at LV50
75 base DEF ~ 90 DEF at 50
95 base SDEF ~ 115 SPDEF at 50.

Decent, yet not very effective tank. 5 resistances. 3 weaknesses. Limited movepool.

Sweeping is not recommended because at MOST Heracross can have 150 speed at 50. That blows.

125 base ATK ~ 160 ATK at lvl50, not counting anyone stupid enough to Status him

Maybe it just comes down to opinion. I never really care about going first, and I don't see that as a necessity when selecting Pokemon. I would play Heracross like a Physical Sweeper, but that's me.