STRONG - Rick Perry <333333

[Firecycle]

see you are warped into believing that muslims prayer is an attempt to convert you.

He never said that.

you as well, should not be allowed to express your faith to others in a state run facility.

lolno.

[Ad Bot]

[Bisjac]

He never said that. yes he did

lolno. yes this has been the case for quite a long time now

you not liking something dosnt mean its not happening

[Planr]

I never said that muslims who pray are trying to convert me, Bisjac. Stop putting words in my mouth.
I'm not here to argue with you over my religous beliefs, go pick a fight with somebody else.

[Bisjac]

I see nothing wrong with muslims praying for other people in a classroom, and likewise I also see nothing wrong with christian children praying in school.

see, muslims dont pray in the classroom. they have to leave to a prayer room that public schools have prepared for them. you never even see them. you are saying these thing based on the whining of your conservative parents who also dont see them, and rick perry who is using your faith as a tool for his campaign.

you are greatly misinformed of the facts.

i bet you believe that gays in the military means there is a raise in government gay orgies on your tax dollar right?

[Firecycle]

How about this. The Government gets their rear-ends out of our education. Stop funding Public Schools. The competition will make the schools provide better education and they will have to change to the needs of the surrounding community. If the community is Atheistic, then you have an Atheistic school. If the community is Christian, then you have an Christian school. If the community is Muslim, then you have an Muslim school. The schools would also be able to disallow any thing they stinking want because they would be private property.

[Bisjac]

that already exists. its called private schooling. and you do have the rights to do that.
you even have the rights to have religious private schooling.
private schooling exists for all types of specific beliefs. and they are very competitive like you say.

so by your own suggestion, i suppose problem solved? i mean demanding that the government paid and government run schools do as the chirstians want seems ridiculous. you have other options if you didnt like it.

[Firecycle]

i mean demanding that the government paid and government run schools do as the chirstians want seems ridiculous. you have other options if you didnt like it.

No no no.

I want the Government

Out of the schools.

Completely.

[Bisjac]

so if all schools are private and cost money. how would you force kids to go?
we would soon have a nation if idiots and no regulation to educate them. half of Africa is like this right now. the very few who even can afford to put their kids in school, still have them sitting in the dirt, without books or maps, and a teacher with the US equivalent of a 6th grade education.

however the government cant discriminate. therefore you have to remove the religion from the government, free schools.

see the current system is actually quite fair. its the chirstians who want to put themselves above others that are demanding more rights then others.
according to god, chirstians have the right to share and convert.
the problem is, this right inflicts upon other's right to not be converted.

a right that the US takes incredibly serious actually

[Katamari007]

[Firecycle]

Technically every natural-born US citizen over 35 without a criminal record is a presidential candidate.

[Bisjac]

if you can avoid needing 50-100million for primary campaigning, and another 50-100million for the general election campaign. you are lucky.

however there is still a 150k or whatever to even register.



so unless you are corrupt enough to get into a party (that will help pay and support you) and that party has enough to gain by you becoming president, you have to spend stuffloads in bribes to them to be their pick.

not anyone can become president. business men become president.

[Vegetarian Zombie]

that's why politicians become president

because they can set their salary to so much stuffloads that they can afford presidential elections

[Bisjac]

we either need no parties at all, or like 10 even parties.
2 is the reason we are broken.

[Vegetarian Zombie]

and what key variations would 10 parties have to all be different from each other, pray-tell?

[Firecycle]

we need no parties at all,
2 is the reason we are broken.

I agree with you on this one.