STRONG - Rick Perry <333333

[Firecycle]

You're coming from a different presupposition, where I am as well. So I guess you probably think that almost any Christian fundamentalist would be willing to blow up a building?

I would be willing to blow up a building.

If no one was inside.

And I had permission from the owner.

And there were firemen and explosive experts on the scene.

And it was totally legal.

Because you know,

Explosions are cool.

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[Wedge]

Fun fact: Christian terrorists have blown up more buildings in this nation than Muslim terrorists have.

[Tom Gunn]

Fun fact: Christian terrorists have blown up more buildings in this nation than Muslim terrorists have.

I would like to see proof of this

True Christians also know what makes a true Christian, so really people who claim Christianity in the name of Terrorism aren't actually Christian.

[Bisjac]

proof? i thought this was common knowledge lol. does your church and parents shelter these things from you?
christians have been attacking clinics and government builds for over 100 years at least.

[Tom Gunn]

proof? i thought this was common knowledge lol. does your church and parents shelter these things from you?
christians have been attacking clinics and government builds for over 100 years at least.

True Christians also know what makes a true Christian, so really people who claim Christianity in the name of Terrorism aren't actually Christian.

Unlike you, I studied the Theology of Protestant Christianity. But this all falls on your world view. So what I say wouldn't matter to you.

[Bisjac]

True Christians also know what makes a true Christian, so really people who claim Christianity in the name of Terrorism aren't actually Christian.

true chirstians are ones who force convert like god told them to.
but not stoning gays you are actually sinning.

[Tom Gunn]

true chirstians are ones who force convert like god told them to.

This is opinion, not fact. The definition varies between groups. I believe TRUE Christians are the ones who aren't. You also think that Every Christian uses an old Testament basis, that was for the fricken jews. Christian Gentiles go by the New Testament. Go study.

[Bisjac]

the new testament was an addition with jesus. it didnt undo anything from the old except for how sins were now forgiven.

churches love to teach the old testament as irrelevant, because otherwise they would look insane and no one would follow them.
its a $ game. you change creed to match modern times, otherwise you get no new $.

[Tom Gunn]

the new testament was an addition with jesus. it didnt undo anything from the old except for how sins were now forgiven.

churches love to teach the old testament as irrelevant, because otherwise they would look insane and no one would follow them.
its a $ game. you change creed to match modern times, otherwise you get no new $.

They teach it as irrelevant because the old law IS Irrelevant even the Bible later on spoke about this. By the way you are arguing you're telling me that you have done little to no study in Theology and the Church at all. Nice job.

[Bisjac]

They teach it as irrelevant because the old law IS Irrelevant.

so then why do chirstians still take the 10 commandments so seriously? thats old you know. very very old testament.
yet you faithfuls are still printing it on tshirts, and preaching it.
there are even newer laws that demand you kill non believers, much newer then the 10 commandments.

or is this just more of you christians picking and choosing the stuff they like?

and dont start flashing your education around at me, you dont have even 100th of the higher education i have. i simply dont need to use it to win debates like you attempt.

[Tom Gunn]

http://carm.org/why-do-christians-not-obey-old-testaments-commands-to-kill-homoloveuals
You don't have to read it. But to me it makes some good points.

However there is no denying how inconsistent Christians can be or supposed "Christians"
 

[Bisjac]

http://carm.org/why-do-christians-not-obey-old-testaments-commands-to-kill-homoloveuals
You don't have to read it. But to me it makes some good points.

However there is no denying how inconsistent Christians can be or supposed "Christians"
 

that explains your inconsistencies and excuses to why some of god's word shouldn't apply anymore.
but also explains the main reason being modern governments are allowed to change the word of god, as should be followed.

so then anything the government passes as law is = god's word? even though these quotes dont come as 2nd or 3rd hand accounts of god's word, but are simply quoted in the bible by ancient politicians. (lol)

thats very convenient and inconsistent indeed lol.



tom you havnt made your point at all. you have only proven my case for me. that Christianity is a sham religion created and used as a political tool to control people. (exactly what rick perry is doing in the OP)

[Tom Gunn]

that explains your inconsistanties and excuses to why it shouldnt apply anymore.

but also explains the main reason being modern governments are allowed to change the word of god, as should be followed.

so then anything the government passes as law is = god's word? even though these quotes dont come as 2nd or 3rd hand accounts of god's word, but are ismply quoted in the bible by ancient politicians. (lol)

thats very convenient and inconsistent indeed lol.



tom you havnt made your point at all. you have only proven my case for me.

I haven't proven your case, and I'm not here to prove one of my own.

and dont start flashing your education around at me, you dont have even 100th of the higher education i have. i simply dont need to use it to win debates like you attempt.

I'm not flashing my level of education, I'm pointing out at how little you know of the subject on religion. You can have a education higher than other people, but there is always going to be someone more well studied on a subject than you. It's life, and you're not exactly a person to make any good arguments for the case.

[Bisjac]

you are 18. did the 2 weeks of religious history in your social studies class, school you as an expert now? lol
you are not

a person to make any good arguments for the case.

as you are suggesting

[Tom Gunn]

you are 18. did the 2 weeks of political history in your social studies class school you as an expert now? lol
you are not

I don't limit myself to the classroom. I'm done arguing with you.