What religion are you?/Religion discussion

[Woolys]

There are loopholes in the Bible, but there is always a counter.

Oh, it's just a mistranslation!

God actually said this!

No, they usually say it's faith. Then I ask them,"Do you think that's actually a good thing...?" Then he started laughing and said,"HELL YES!"

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[Böltster]

There are no loopholes in the Bible, just people who don't study it.

There are loopholes in the sense that the bible is riddled with contradictions that nullify what it has previously said

[Black and White]

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Magic


but really think about it like this Christianity accounts for supernatural things (ie god having existed for eternity) while science doesn't as far as I know

[Hiok1998]

Change the topic name to "religion debate" because that is 80% of the comments

[Böltster]

Magic


but really think about it like this Christianity accounts for supernatural things (ie god having existed for eternity) while science doesn't as far as I know

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps

[Hiok1998]

Magic


but really think about it like this Christianity accounts for supernatural things (ie god having existed for eternity) while science doesn't as far as I know

Yea but science didn't know everything right now.
Understand that

[TheKhoz]

Ahaha

Genesis 9:20 Noah, a man of the soil, proceeded to plant a vineyard. When he drank some of its wine, he became drunk and lay uncovered inside his tent.
The only guy worth saving spent his latter days drunk and naked?

Much of the biblical flood story was actually plagiarized from "The Epic of Gilgamesh," the mythical Sumerian account of Ut-Napishtim written on stone tablets around 2000 BC. In "The Epic of Gilgamesh, one righteous man was spared from a worldwide flood by building a large boat with a single door and one window. The ark contained a few other human beings plus plant and animal specimens. Rains covered the mountains with water. Birds were sent to find land. The boat landed on a mountain in the middle east. Ut-Napshtim sacrificed an animal as an offering, and the Babylonian gods expressed regret for flooding the earth. Sound familiar?

[Black and White]

I wasn't postin that as a solid indisputable fact and proof that Jesus is real just a bit of food for thought

Because I know some people will argue to they're grave

[Dodger]

Culture includes language, and you've said something about language in this very post

I get what you are trying to say, I thought you were trying to counter that point with a slightly different argument about how the Bible may be mistranslated entirely and trying to veer off the specific point I was trying to make.

 Pretty much every translation has the same apocalyptic language within it though. However, the point that's being made is that the Hebrew culture was familiar with that language being a form of symbolism.

There are loopholes in the sense that the bible is riddled with contradictions that nullify what it has previously said

Speaking of translation, that guy fails to give his specific translation on pretty much every point.

[*Magick* Mage]

But you said it doesn't matter anymore! Why would it relate to the New then!

It's not that it doesn't "matter", it's that it doesn't apply. After the Constitution was written, I doubt anybody just threw aside the Articles of Confederation and said "Gee, well what's the point of these anymore!". It shows progression, it shows the culture. Just because you create new it does not mean you destroy the old, for it is still, in one way or another, built from it. But it also does not mean the old is still instituted.

There are loopholes in the sense that the bible is riddled with contradictions that nullify what it has previously said

I read several of them; he does have a good number of points, but there are a few that he takes out of context. When brown townyzing any text, it must be viewed not only isolated, but with the passages around it, and with the text as a whole. And there are also several points where he takes it from a solely literal perspective - not just in regular text or stories either, but in metaphors.

And of course there is a bit inconstancy between certain accounts, though several of which are understandable (Like numbers, ages, etc). And which printing is he even using? :o

[Hiok1998]

I wasn't postin that as a solid indisputable fact and proof that Jesus is real just a bit of food for thought

Because I know some people will argue to they're grave

I'd argue to my gave probably

[Böltster]

Speaking of translation, that guy fails to give his specific translation on pretty much every point.

If you take where he cites it from and google it, you'll see that it doesn't really matter which translation it comes from.

I read several of them; he does have a good number of points, but there are a few that he takes out of context. When brown townyzing any text, it must be viewed not only isolated, but with the passages around it, and with the text as a whole. And there are also several points where he takes it from a solely literal perspective - not just in regular text or stories either, but in metaphors.

I love how a divine lord couldn't produce a divine document that was straight forward

[Hiok1998]

Anyway, I don't think you can just pick an choose what you like and what you don't

Cause it is the word of god! It's perfect and moral.
(sarcasm)

[*Magick* Mage]

I love how a divine lord couldn't produce a divine document that was straight forward

That'd be no fun!

[Hiok1998]

That'd be no fun!

Becuz god wurks in mysterioos wayz, rite?