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[Böltster]

if I were atheist I would believe in the Big Bang/evolution. And those ideas are silly imo. So I won't ever probably become an atheist.

And yet an invisible omnipotent being that created the world in 7 days from nothing is a completely rational idea, is it?

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[Mysteroo]

The reason most people think its silly is because they haven't been educated as to what the theory actually states, and just spew out the twisted rewording that other religious believers have spewed out.
Also the "it's just a theory" bullstuff argument

Oh I'm plenty educated. I study that all the time. But I also try and look at things I personally have problems with and see if there is a solution to that problem I have. If there isn't a solution I would have to be led to think the theory is false. And I have a lot of problems with those two theories. Just setting aside religious beliefs for a few minutes, pure science- there are a lot of issues with The Big Bang and evolution.
And for those of you thinking, "I thought you said you're not continuing with that conversation!!1!" I'm not, I'm conversing with someone else.

And yet an invisible omnipotent being that created the world in 7 days from nothing is a completely rational idea, is it?

Oh no, but we all know some stuff from nowhere that exploded for no reason is completely rational!
And a frog turning into a prince is fantasy, but give it a few million years and it's Evolution!!1!

See, I can make fun of completely rational ideas too.

[Tom Gunn]

And yet an invisible omnipotent being that created the world in 7 days from nothing is a completely rational idea, is it?

And even then an Explosion caused from supposed "matter" that nobody can explain WHERE it came from and caused a life cycle that began the evolution of the universe makes perfect sense too.

Both sides have that big hole I do not like. You do not have to believe in the Big bang to believe in the theory of evolution, and you certainly don't have to believe in God to think that everything was created in 7 days either. The only question that any party on this planet cannot answer is where matter comes from.

[asablief]

Mysteroo you're going to get nowhere if you take an aggressive approach.

[Mysteroo]

Mysteroo you're going to get nowhere if you take an aggressive approach.

I know, if it seems like I am, sorry. I was just showing that it's very easy to make fun of any belief or idea, no matter how rational it is.
I was hoping that this-

See, I can make fun of completely rational ideas too.

would be interpreted as that.

[Headcrab Zombie]

> assuming that there are no Christians who do not actually seek out and deeply study evolution and actually form an opinion on it.

Point out where in that post I said "all Christians are uneducated"
I didn't.
What I said was "of the people who don't believe it, most of the time, it is because the were never educated about it"
This is evident by the sheer number of horrendous arguments used to attack it. Most of them I see are stuff like "if humans evolved from monkeys, then why do we still have monkeys?"

> It is a theory

The reason I call the "just a theory" argument bullstuff is that many of the people who use it seem to think that the word 'theory' means the same as 'hypothesis' and that it has no evidence behind it.

gravity is still a theory

This. I remember not too long ago, Mysteroo used that "Evolution is just a theory" argument, and then in the same post posted something basically showing support for gravity

Both sides have that big hole I do not like.

The difference between science and religion is that science will admit there are holes in their knowledge that they don't understand, and they continue working so that they hopefully can understand it

[Böltster]

Oh no, but we all know some stuff from nowhere that exploded for no reason is completely rational!

That's exactly right, science has no idea why it happened. The difference is, science will admit that.

[Doomonkey]

Topic went where topic was expected to go.

[Tom Gunn]

The difference between science and religion is that science will admit there are holes in their knowledge that they don't understand.

And still try to build on top of that big hole not dismissing it completely. The point is that both sides are pretty much undermined entirely because of that basis. Matter did not just "evolve" it was either put into action by a being or it somehow just appeared.

Also, in regards to Christianity THE BIBLE IS NOT A SCIENTIFIC BASE. I get tired of people trying to use the Bible as a science book instead of a "Theology" book.

[Mysteroo]

This is evident by the sheer number of horrendous arguments used to attack it. Most of them I see are stuff like "if humans evolved from monkeys, then why do we still have monkeys?"
The reason I call the "just a theory" argument bullstuff is that people who use it seem to think that the word 'theory' means the same as 'hypothesis' and that it has no evidence behind it.
This. I remember not too long ago, Mysteroo used that "Evolution is just a theory" argument, and then in the same post posted something basically showing support for gravity
The difference between science and religion is that science will admit there are holes in their knowledge that they don't understand.

there's a lot of bad arguments given by atheists too. But that doesn't mean there's no good arguments from both sides.

And no, theories aren't the same as hypothesis's, but I personally wouldn't consider either of those theories. As neither of them are really testable, or at least not effectively testable.

In most science text books I read, it titles Gravity as a law. No matter what you do, gravity is always happening and always in effect, so I would call it a law. It's undebatable.

Personally I don't really see any holes in my belief. So I guess in some ways (not all) that last part is right. some don't admit it because they're stubborn, but I don't admit it because I don't think it's true. Nearly any "contradiction" people have found, I would consider easily solved.

[Bisjac]

And no, theories aren't the same as hypothesis's

duh
religion is a hypothesis. unless i guess you had a first hand prophet with you.

when you gather data, the hypothesis becomes a theory. (3rd grade science class)

[Qwepir]

if I were atheist I would believe in the Big Bang

Go forget yourself. I'm an atheist and I believe all universal origin theories are loving stupid.

[Captain Crazy]

I definitely believe in Evolution. Big Bang? Not so much. Not really sure how something comes from nothing, but evolution comes from something needing to adapt to become a better something.

I think religion should've died with the dark ages. It was a means of explaining the (as of then) unexplainable, phenomena such as rain or wind or the sun in the sky. But now that we have science to fill in the blanks, why do we dwell on some dusty old tome to tell us what to do or what to believe in?

[Qwepir]

But now that we have science to fill in the blanks, why do we dwell on some dusty old tome to tell us what to do or what to believe in?

Because God said so.

[Mysteroo]

Go forget yourself. I'm an atheist and I believe all universal origin theories are loving stupid.

what? I'm just saying what I would do, I said absolutely nothing about other atheists. The universe is expanding, meaning there had to be an absolute beginning. Some scientists say the Big Bang, I find that silly. But that's the only alternative to an intelligent designer, so I'd have to go with the intelligent designer.

I think religion should've died with the dark ages. It was a means of explaining the (as of then) unexplainable, phenomena such as rain or wind or the sun in the sky. But now that we have science to fill in the blanks, why do we dwell on some dusty old tome to tell us what to do or what to believe in?

some religions are a means of explaining the unexplainable. I don't believe they all are. Greek mythology, yes. Christianity? Judaism? Islam? no.