The NDAA '12 passed WITH sections 1021, 1022

[Bisjac]

the difference from the patriot act was the loophole that terrorists werent citizens and we could torture them and not give them trial.

this bill allows them things to happen to us citizens now.
you dont need proof of being a terrorist or not, who are you proving it to? the ones dragging you away?
its been done in other countries, there isnt reason to think we never will.

[Ad Bot]

[Count]

So, anyone using terror to do something can be arrested without trial?

Terror being fear or violence.

[DrenDran]

-its illegal to horde more then 7 days worth of food (not sure when or how this will ever be enforced)

Yeah, what the forget is this?

[Doomonkey]

So, anyone using terror to do something can be arrested without trial?

Terror being fear or violence.

You don't have to be using terror. They just have to say you are.

[Count]

What about freedom of speech. Could I say that I was a terrorist and not be arrested?

[Tammy]

this bill allows them things to happen to us citizens now.
you dont need proof of being a terrorist or not, who are you proving it to? the ones dragging you away?
its been done in other countries, there isnt reason to think we never will.

The military has always had the ability to drag anyone away without proof. This bill makes it technically more legal, but that doesn't mean it couldn't have already been happening.

If the U.S. were suddenly to become a police state, the President wouldn't need to do it though congress, he would just need a military that obeys him.

[Doomonkey]

What about freedom of speech. Could I say that I was a terrorist and not be arrested?

None of your rights matter at all because terrorists have no rights and the government can make anyone a terrorist at any time.

[Count]

None of your rights matter at all because terrorists have no rights and the government can make anyone a terrorist at any time.

Totally missed my question.

[Doomonkey]

Totally missed my question.

Because I didn't understand what you were asking. Of course you could say something and not be arrested.

[Lesrock]

screw earth, I want to live on [insert other planet that supports life and is close to this solar system]

[carolcat]

-its illegal to horde more then 7 days worth of food (not sure when or how this will ever be enforced)

but what about the zombie apocalypse preparations?

[deadpossom]

TO CANADA AWAY!

[IkeTheGeneric]

but what about the zombie apocalypse preparations?

Preparing for any apocalypse is stupid. There's not even a fighting chance you, who is underage, could survive an apocalypse.

[carolcat]

Preparing for any apocalypse is stupid. There's not even a fighting chance you, who is underage, could survive an apocalypse.

I was joking.

[Gojira]

FFFFF

MÜN

NOW

THEY CAN'T FIND ME IF I'M ON ANOTHER PLANET