I Am Now WITH v21

[comedy101experiments]

Sure losing terrains and maps won't be fun, but....

I'll see why people don't want it? Why do I have to wait? I already know that we are losing terrains and interiors and it is not a big deal. It has been argued many times, but it doesn't matter, we are losing them, get used to it.

Shaders and shadows are optional. They will create little to no lag as long as you have a computer that isn't from the friggen Jurassic Era. If your computer cannot handle the new effects, you can simply turn them off. Terrains and interiors are not going to be kept in the game and toggable, because they cause problems with the engine and they simply need to go so Blockland can get more updates and improvements.

Every time someone is blindly defending terrains and interiors, and saying we need to keep them no matter what, you basically don't want Blockland to get anymore updates and improve. Terrains and interiors are the reason we barely get engine updates like the Brick Physics update, and every other update is just adding a default add-on.

After doing some simple math, I have come up with a statistic. For every one person that is against the update, there are 3.10 people (I figured you'd want the actual figure) who support it. That means that ~76% of Blockland is for the update (Real figure is simplified to 0.7563). It's also inevitable.

Source for data:
http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=184953.0
http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=185194.0
http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=184791.0

Also, like people said before, this update will help better updates come in the future, sorry for making a lame "I Hate v21" topic before this, thanks for reading,

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[Bisjac]

i like engine updates that will allow us more brick limits, so that i can build the massive cool maps we want.

we dont need a premade world, this is blockland, we can build it.

[comedy101experiments]

That is true, but like I said above...

    How would we be able to rebuild the terrains?  It would take MUCH more effort than needed to make them, and they would look horrible, because it would be so hard to simulate that stuff.  Also, how would skis be fun anymore?  I know there are ramps, but there is no way, if they release this update, that it would be as fun as the slopes, plus, it would be much more rough to ride on.
    

[-Jetz-]

In my opinion, shadows and shaders are cool and need to be added, but why can't they just remove something else that nobody even uses?

Interiors and terrains are not being cut simply because kompressor feels like it. There are important reasons to do this.

Also, this poll will be identical to the several other polls floating around here.

[CityRPG]

Why do people defend interiors?

With the slate concept we'll still be able to set up environments. Space, the ocean, purgatory, hell -- it doesn't matter.

We lose the bedroom, we gain graphics and rid ourselves of an antiquated system.


Think of all the new players that will join because the game looks better. Think of the new money allowing Badspot to expand further. Think of all the cool stuff we'll get as a result.

[comedy101experiments]

Think of losing games like "Nobot's Deathrace", "heedicalking's Slopes TDM" and many other famous servers for a while or even forever!  Sure, this update will improve the graphics and add more shadows, but again, we are losing more than we really need to!

[Awdax]

Holy loving stuff.

First of all, what the stuff? Interiors and terrains do not make Blockland unique. Where the flying forget did you get that idea?

Second, we are not losing terrains and interiors just for shadows. The developers have had to work around them for a while. Ever notice how every update was almost always a new default Add-On, something that could easily be added to the game? And never an update like the v8 - v9 update or the brick physics update? Those were harder to apply because of the way interiors and terrains work. With these two things out of the way, Blockland will be a lot easier for Badspot and kompressor to add things to the game. Shadows and Shaders are just one of the things we will be getting.

Third, just because some of you loving cavemen don't want to lose your stuffty terrain, and your precious interiors doesn't mean Badspot and kompressor will cancel the update just to the minorities' needs. We are getting this update whether or not you want it.

Think of losing games like "Nobot's Deathrace", "heedicalking's Slopes TDM" and many other famous servers for a while or even forever!  Sure, this update will improve the graphics and add more shadows, but again, we are losing more than we really need to!

Well that's their fault. They should have built an arena themselves instead of relying on terrain and interiors.

[comedy101experiments]

Well, I said before that I have my opinions and you have yours.
Also, I got the idea that they make it unique because think of it, ROBLOX does not have custom terrains, maps, and interiors!

[phydeoux]

1. Notice all of the other topics against the update. Should probably put your input there instead of creating another new topic like an attention whore.
2. Notice that all of the other topics have the same poll, and each one shows that the majority of the community is in favor of the update. Hinty Hint Hint.
3. I didn't bother to read anything you said.

[comedy101experiments]

1. I noticed that, but if I posted this there, it would be too long to put on the topic and people would call me a spammer or something
2. I noticed.
3. I don't care.

[Awdax]

Well, I said before that I have my opinions and you have yours.
Also, I got the idea that they make it unique because think of it, ROBLOX does not have custom terrains, maps, and interiors!

stuffty terrain

This is an opinion.

Well that's their fault. They should have built an arena themselves instead of relying on terrain and interiors.

This is not an opinion.

Second, we are not losing terrains and interiors just for shadows. The developers have had to work around them for a while. Ever notice how every update was almost always a new default Add-On, something that could easily be added to the game? And never an update like the v8 - v9 update or the brick physics update? Those were harder to apply because of the way interiors and terrains work. With these two things out of the way, Blockland will be a lot easier for Badspot and kompressor to add things to the game. Shadows and Shaders are just one of the things we will be getting.

And neither is this. This actually affects the game.

Yes, we all have our opinions. So do Badspot and kompressor, and they say we are getting the update no matter what you say. So cry some more, and enjoy your maps while you can because we are getting this update no matter what.

1. I noticed that, but if I posted this there, it would be too long to put on the topic and people would call me a spammer or something

A spammer for a long and detailed post? You're an idiot.

2. I noticed.

Than take the hint and don't make another useless poll.

[Makingblah]

I've had many popular games before and even though I've used interiors, I built my game around them, not in them. It's not hard to do the same in slate. You just build it.

[sir dooble]

I don't understand why so many people are getting in a huff over the fact that it's "Gameplay versus graphics".

For starters, that's not even true, considering this update isn't designed just for new graphics. That just happens to be the first thing implemented following the removal of interiors/terrains.

Most of the time I personally find that I and most servers I visit are based upon a slate-style map.
So, they're not making use of terrain maps.
So, by removing it, you're not removing gameplay.

It's similar to telling me that I am losing a vital part of my bodily system and will never be the same again if I remove my appendix.


I won't claim to understand or really know anything about how development is done on Blockland, but I would for a minute think that the removal of terrain/interiors is just for this one shadow/shaders addition.
I think if that were the case, they'd have seen the negative views from a mile of.
If you're removing something like this, which has been a stable element of Blockland for years, you'd want to replace it with new stuff, lots of stuff.
In the end, I can only see this to lead towards more gain for Blockland than loss.

[Electrk]

Hey look, another "ogm v21 sux" topic

[Nasoa]

Think of losing games like "Nobot's Deathrace", "heedicalking's Slopes TDM" and many other famous servers for a while or even forever!  Sure, this update will improve the graphics and add more shadows, but again, we are losing more than we really need to!

There will be new servers.