Author Topic: How school should be.  (Read 1197 times)

Well that back fired!

I don't quite know how the American schooling system works, so I shall explain how it works for me in England.

I shall ignore primary school, for that is the young ages of 8 to 11 (years 3, 4, 5 & 6), and in that time you learn basic english maths and science and then you do whatever little kids do in school.

We start in Secondary school at the age of 11.
For the first three years that you spend at the school (Years 7, 8 & 9) you will learn a compulsory course.
This includes English, Maths, Science (Covering Biology, Chemistry and Physics), Art, ICT, an MFL (Moder Foreign Language, including French, German, Spanish and Italian), Religious Education, Drama, Physical Education and possibly other lessons that your school teaches.

For this moment, the lesson stuff is basic and is still similar to Primary school. Teaching might not be so much as teaching and more distracting you long enough for the school to lock you up for the day.
The lessons you do however are designed to give you enough education to take on qualifications in whatever subject you choose.
Compulsary courses, which I know definitely include English, Maths, Science, PE, RE, History, Geography, ICT and an MFL, are enforced by the Government as these are the things that the country deems it necesarry that you know of for multiple reasons. The English, Maths and Science are obvious. PE is to keep you fit. ICT and an MFL is because these are increasingly important in today's world and RE covers not just Religion, but things like love Education and Racial Equality and Citizenship.
History and Geography are equally important in letting you understand citizenship aswell as being important for future education or work.

Now, a student might be having a lesson that he has to do, like Drama, which he does not enjoy.
But that's okay, because he reaches his 4th year of Secondary Education and enters Year 10.
At this point, he chooses the subjects he wishes to learn.

These are more ranged than the lessons you had before. At this point, you enter into one of the lowest levels of qualifications readying you for the future, where you will either get a job or enter into tertiary education.
At this point there are some courses you still must take.
English Language, Double Science (Provides for 2 general science GCSEs), Mathematics, Religious Education, Physical Education (Does not have an exam, is for fitness only).
The MFL and ICT are removed as these may not suit you personally and it would be wasteful to force you to do try a full qualification of something which you are not good at. Some schools may force you to take one, however.
(My previous school was a "Community College" and as such focussed on MFL's and had a school policy that enforced the learning of atleast one MFL)

At this point however you get to choose to take usually 3 or 4 courses that you want.
This could be History, Drama, Geography, an MFL, ICT, PE (Examined on Physical ability and knowledge (basic biology)), Triple Science (Provides three specific Science GCSE's, one for Biology, one Chemistry and one Physics), Art, Design Technology (All sorts including Woodwork, Electronics and Textiles), Religious based classes, Politics in some schools, Music and many more.
At this point you partake in an education suited to your choices.

You spend two years doing these courses and recieve a GCSE at the end, a General Certificate of Secondary Education.


Following this, you are then out of compulsary education. You can go get a job, or an apprenticeship or go onto tertiary education, such as a College or Sixth Form.
At a College or Sixth Form you choose the subjects you want out of whatever options are available to you.
You will require specific grades in your GCSE's to qualify for the course, will not have to do any courses you don't wish to and are not legally required to be there.
It's the level of examination before University.
You work for A Levels (Usually, or a lower, possibly vocational qualification). You spend one year where you do a full course and at the end recieve an AS Level. If you continue into the next year with the course, you further onto an A Level, Advanced Certificate of Secondary Education.

From there it's onto University.

My main point of this is that you have a few compulsary lessons that you are forced to do because it is in your best interest.
Your government has designed courses for you that are to provide you with the necesarry education to survive in the real world, whether that's getting a job or not or continuing onto additional education.
You get to a point in your education where you get full reign of your education.

No longer do you have to learn what you did not want to or found too difficult. You learn for what you are ready to learn.
You just have to put up with the compulsary stuff for a few years.
Out of Secondary Education there are only 3 years out of 7 that I don't have a single-say in what I learn.
My countries education system might be different from yours, but it can't be that much so.

Yeah let's remove all the non-major courses because they might not be vital towards a possible career choice of ONE PERSON!

-hugesnipthatprobablycouldvebeensmaller-

What was referred to "off the top of your head" sounds more like "straight out of your ass".

Yes! Lets take things out of context and insult people for sharing opinions! that was unnecessary.

on a serious note, at some points when I get angry I just put down what my mind tells me, and I do realize some of what I said is probably not true, but still.

Also, without learning all the different subjects, how would we know which ones we hate and which ones we like?
taking them for a semester or a year, and then trying something else next semester or year if undesired.

English is used for everything. -I get that now, thank you for saying that for the bajillionth time.
Bio is useful for a lot of things, including getting into a medical career, and not loving up horribly when there's an accident and you don't understand how to loving take care of it when red liquid begins spilling out. -If people want a medical career, they take the class. And depends on the wound. You get a cut? Band-Aid. Slice open your thumb? Put pressure on it then go to the hospital. Car crash? Ambulance comes. Honestly some of these things you just learn by your parents.

AND I'M NOT SAYING REMOVE THEM, I'M SAYING MAKE THEM NON-MANDATORY.

I think OP is describing college..  After you get the generals I mean.

-holygodsnip-
America: Elemetary grades K-6
              Middle School grades 7-8
              High School grades 9-12
              4 years of college and your good to go.
In high school we have our "core" classes, including math, science, history, literature and another language, each of which you would have to take for around 3 years, +/- a year. then you have your electives to sign up for, including pretty much everything else. I can't remember precisely what it's like in middle school but I'd imagine its about the same. Cant say much for college as I'm only a soph in HS.

very basic rundown.

op is handicapped and doomed to be a failure at life.


History classes are required because otherwise we end up with a country where nobody knows anything about it, at least now only about half of the country doesn't know anything about it (source: complete estimation pulled out of my ass but close enough)

Biology is required for the same thing, we'd end up with a country full of people who don't know how life works

They're both basic knowledge classes and you should pay attention

America: Elemetary grades K-6
              Middle School grades 7-8
              High School grades 9-12
              4 years of college and your good to go.
In high school we have our "core" classes, including math, science, history, literature and another language, each of which you would have to take for around 3 years, +/- a year. then you have your electives to sign up for, including pretty much everything else. I can't remember precisely what it's like in middle school but I'd imagine its about the same. Cant say much for college as I'm only a soph in HS.

very basic rundown.
Elemetary is K-5 for me...

They should still be mandatory but they should let you choose what you want to learn about the topic

like with history, I honestly don't give a forget about the few dozen primitive-assed civilizations and their constant cycle of "rising -> peaks -> uh oh bad leader -> falling -> government overthrown -> new leader -> repeat" that we learn about


Directed at the third quote: It doesn't hurt to know at least a little advanced first aid. I don't plan on ever being a doctor, but I still let my mom teach me more advanced first-aid.

Also, history can be pretty important in some cases. I've never really cared for history, but I'm not going to say it's completely unneeded.

Elemetary is K-5 for me...
Elementary is 1st through 3rd grade where I am.

Without history we'd be doomed to repeat the past mistakes of others.

Allow me to specify, American History I'm O.K. with, but I don't think the South African Apartheid is going to change my views of my country.