A thread about religion and non-religion

[Count]

i hate all religions

Have you done in-depth research on every single religion out there? Or are you basing all of this hatred from past experiences?

jesus didnt write a thing.
every book was written by itself separately. never expecting to be compiled with others. and that was done hundreds of years after jesus was long gone.

This is true. Most Christians don't know this. It's why There are so many bibles with contradictions in each one.

that's more like common sense

Believe it or not, religious restrictions can be oh so much more powerful than laws. Mentally, i mean.

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[Clone v.117]

jesus didnt write a thing.
every book was written by itself separately. never expecting to be compiled with others. and was put together hundreds of years after jesus was long gone.

all the writers were of like dozen different religions and 100 different cultures and beliefs.
lol even chrsitians know this. you actually thought jesus wrote even 1 word in the bible? holy crap lol

and the bible was not written in months. it took over 1000 years. by many many people living long apart.

I didn't say Jesus wrote anything????? Maybe you misunderstood me or something.
And thats what i mean, I know all about how the bible and christianity says the bible was written, like how whole books in it are letters and writing of his disciples and others, but im saying that if it was really all so fake as people say how do we know that any of that actually happened.

I guess i should have explained what i was trying to say before making a complicated statement...

[TwenteFreak]

Have you done in-depth research on every single religion out there?

Why would I?
I don't need a religion to live my life.

[Bisjac]

I didn't say Jesus wrote anything????? Maybe you misunderstood me or something.
And thats what i mean, I know all about how the bible and christianity says the bible was written, like how whole books in it are letters and writing of his disciples and others, but im saying that if it was really all so fake as people say how do we know that any of that actually happened.

I guess i should have explained what i was trying to say before making a complicated statement...

jesus was a real guy. i guess the debate is if he was the son of god or not.
but about the first 16 books in the new testament are legit jesus info. the rest of the bible is garbage that is irrelevant to christianity.

short of the bulk of the old testament that jews use.

[Clone v.117]

jesus was a real guy. i guess the debate is if he was the son of god or not.
but about the first 16 books in the new testament are legit jesus info. the rest of the bible is garbage that is irrelevant to christianity.

short of the bulk of the old testament that jews use.

Yeah that's what i was trying to say lol, also if Jesus was really just pretending to be the son of god he must have been a crazy to have been able to fool people so well that they would spend the rest of their lives devoted to him and his words, also that would make him the biggest richard.

[Skele]

Believe it or not, religious restrictions can be oh so much more powerful than laws. Mentally, i mean.

The problem with religious restrictions, at least in the case of Christianity, is the punishment. You sin, you are sent to hell. There's no variability in punishment.

Here's an example: if  the punishment for every crime was death, there would be no reason to perform more severe crimes once you've performed a small on. This means that someone who, say, litters, assuming littering is a crime, then they would be punished by death if caught. Now, if no one seems them or finds out, no worries, but say someone sees them do it? Whats to stop that person from trying to kill the observer? They can't be punished any further, right? In fact, there situation can only get better, because now they can remove the witness and potentially not be punished at all.

[Daedalus]

Sigh.. I'll let you understand for yourself someday. I was in the same boat a few years back as well.

but I just don't see how you HAVE to be on either side

[Clone v.117]

The problem with religious restrictions, at least in the case of Christianity, is the punishment. You sin, you are sent to hell. There's no variability in punishment.

Here's an example: if  the punishment for every crime was death, there would be no reason to perform more severe crimes once you've performed a small on. This means that someone who, say, litters, assuming littering is a crime, then they would be punished by death if caught. Now, if no one seems them or finds out, no worries, but say someone sees them do it? Whats to stop that person from trying to kill the observer? They can't be punished any further, right? In fact, there situation can only get better, because now they can remove the witness and potentially not be punished at all.

I think what he means is just the mental impact, i mean years ago i would be so enraged and ready to just smash everything and stab someone and be going off at my parents or something idk, and then they would say how if i did what i was planning to do i would go to hell for eternity and just the thought of it would stop me in my tracks.

[Böltster]

buddhism is the most real world applicable religion imo

[TwenteFreak]

There's always multiple/a bad part(s) with religions, so I'd rather be non-religious.

[Awdax]

OBV TRYING TO START stuff

pls dont report me :C

[Count]

Yeah that's what i was trying to say lol, also if Jesus was really just pretending to be the son of god he must have been a crazy to have been able to fool people so well that they would spend the rest of their lives devoted to him and his words, also that would make him the biggest richard.

You never know, he may have just taught people to do good. Then the religion sprang up years later. And who knows what was added into the bible.

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This doesn't apply to Christians though. The problem is they are saved as long as they confess. So, basically it's a "Do what you want, Jesus already saved you!" thing.

[Bisjac]

christianity is designed to shame you and punish you even if you dont know you are sinning.

everyone sins day to day without even knowing they are. modern society dosnt even allow us to be truly reverent and moral. there are so many "sins" listed, half of them contradict themselves in the same religion itself.

is it really a sin if you didnt know it was? is it really a sin if you are unaware and are innocent?
i assumed evil was by intent. how can a god send you to hell for never having evil intent, but falling into the million sin loopholes of his?

thats not a real god... i question his authority to judge me.

[Skele]

but I just don't see how you HAVE to be on either side

It isn't a side at all. You make it seem like it's a side in a war, where you can be neutral. You either don't believe in a god or do. From there you can either claim that you know the god exists, or claim you can't be certain.

You never know, he may have just taught people to do good. Then the religion sprang up years later. And who knows what was added into the bible.This doesn't apply to Christians though. The problem is they are saved as long as they confess. So, basically it's a "Do what you want, Jesus already saved you!" thing.

Then that's far worse.

[Daedalus]

It isn't a side at all. You make it seem like it's a side in a war, where you can be neutral. You either don't believe in a god or do. From there you can either claim that you know the god exists, or claim you can't be certain.

I believe that I'm neutral ;)