The Venus Project is legitimate. The Zeitgeist Movement is not credible.

[Sunny]

And yet how minor all that put together equals to the giant you need to take on. That's only a fraction of the things that need to be dealt with. If you can show me a man who is selfless and perfect. Then you have the seed for a successful movement.

No leader of any successful movement was perfect, and few to half were selfless. The older generations will retire, and we will be the new workforce/leaders. If we embrace these concepts instead of doubting them our children will embrace them as well.

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[Nymethus]

No leader of any successful movement was perfect, and few to half were selfless. The older generations will retire, and we will be the new workforce/leaders. If we embrace these concepts instead of doubting them our children will embrace them as well.

This sounds good

[Sunny]

He is saying that simply by reading about evil deeds committed in the past, we get the idea implanted in our minds, which we can then act upon.

[TeslaCoil]

No leader of any successful movement was perfect, and few to half were selfless. The older generations will retire, and we will be the new workforce/leaders. If we embrace these concepts instead of doubting them our children will embrace them as well.

Assuming I was talking about leaders. Children are born with corruption, it is not only fueled just by the past as you have stated. With a natural knowledge of a good and an evil. Children will embrace what they will. You cannot physically nor mentally perfect the human condition.

[Sunny]

Assuming I was talking about leaders. Children are born with corruption, it is not only fueled just by the past as you have stated. With a natural knowledge of a good and an evil. Children will embrace what they will. You cannot physically nor mentally perfect the human condition.

Proof please. Because I can (and constantly [in order to understand myself so I can change how I want to]) trace every bit of my personality to either my parents, relatives, or an event.

[TeslaCoil]

Proof please. Because I can trace every bit of my personality to either my parents, relatives, or an event.

The proof is the society you live in. How can you support a movement that addresses the issue if you need proof of something that you say your movement is progressing to try and fix? Obviously it's there if you have an entire minority of people looking right at it.

[Nymethus]

He is saying that simply by reading about evil deeds committed in the past, we get the idea implanted in our minds, which we can then act upon.

I suppose that in the same sense some people become murderers because they e.g. watch horror movies

[Sunny]

The proof is the society you live in. How can you support a movement that addresses the issue if you need proof of something that you say your movement is progressing to try and fix? Obviously it's there if you have an entire minority of people looking right at it.

The second project I mentioned in the OP and that shall not be mentioned again has raised over 100k in small-time donations. They just used that money to hire a scriptwriter for a major motion picture to reveal their concepts to a wider audience.

[Sunny]

I suppose that in the same sense some people become murderers because they e.g. watch horror movies

I know right.

It's this kind of thought that doesn't work.

The ratio of studies proving that human behavior is affected by childhood and environment to studies disproving that is over 9000

[Nymethus]

[Sunny]

Haha, I thought by "o deer" you meant that you didn't really want to become friends for that reason.

[Nymethus]

Haha, I thought by "o deer" you meant that you didn't really want to become friends for that reason.

I wrote it like two seconds after your message... of course there was some devious plan behind

[Nymethus]

OK so I totally forgot but I just watched Vetenskapens Värld and it's about psychopaths and stuff, what is evil and what makes someone evil.
It's also about what and when makes you who you are.
http://svtplay.se/t/102814/vetenskapens_varld
Don't worry, all the experts and scientists are speaking English.

[Sunny]

OK so I totally forgot but I just watched Vetenskapens Värld and it's about psychopaths and stuff, what is evil and what makes someone evil.
It's also about what and when makes you who you are.
http://svtplay.se/t/102814/vetenskapens_varld
Don't worry, all the experts and scientists are speaking English.

You can only watch it if you're in Sweden :/

[Nymethus]

You can only watch it if you're in Sweden :/

aww what :c that sucks