The Venus Project is legitimate. The Zeitgeist Movement is not credible.

[Böltster]

peace is overrated


all technological advancement was made for the benefit of the military

i think the video itself is overrated

it's fine to suppose all of this, but there's a big difference between supposing and applying

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[Sunny]

i think the video itself is overrated

it's fine to suppose all of this, but there's a big difference between supposing and applying

The monetary system is collapsing. The rate of consumption of oil---the most important resource in the world right now---has recently surpassed the rate of extraction possible. Additionally, several decades from now 60% of countries will have their credit ratings classified as "junk", eliminating all funding for social programs such as unemployment checks. By the way, unemployment is rising due to the automation of labor. Things are crumbling, and a new system will take its place. It's our job to educate the world about this alternative so that when the time comes, we can choose it.

Edit: unemployment is rising. previously wrote employment

[Böltster]

The monetary system is collapsing. The rate of consumption of oil---the most important resource in the world right now---has recently surpassed the rate of extraction possible. Additionally, several decades from now 60% of countries will have their credit ratings classified as "junk", eliminating all funding for social programs such as unemployment checks. By the way, employment is rising due to the automation of labor. Things are crumbling, and a new system will take its place. It's our job to educate the world about this alternative so that when the time comes, we can choose it.

Professor Sunny, PhD in global economics from the university of some video on the internet

[Sunny]

Professor Sunny, PhD in global economics from the university of some video on the internet

The video is backed by research. You can go on the film maker's website and get the pdf accompaniment to the video and see all sources used.

[comr4de]

The monetary system is collapsing. The rate of consumption of oil---the most important resource in the world right now---has recently surpassed the rate of extraction possible. Additionally, several decades from now 60% of countries will have their credit ratings classified as "junk", eliminating all funding for social programs such as unemployment checks. By the way, unemployment is rising due to the automation of labor. Things are crumbling, and a new system will take its place. It's our job to educate the world about this alternative so that when the time comes, we can choose it.

Edit: unemployment is rising. previously wrote employment

unemployment is rising for three reasons

1. Outsourcing manufacturing to other countries
2. Mechanization of the workforce
3. Complacency of the people


none of them having to do with whatever the forget you're on about

the credit system is failing because nobody understands the concept of not spending money if you dont have any. its a basic concept that apparently grown adults can't seem to wrap their heads around. when said adults finally bite off more than they can chew, the govt sweeps in and pays off their debts, primarily because said adults control the finances of thousands of other adults in the country, and not paying them off will lead to another great depression



learn your stuff son

The video is backed by research. You can go on the film maker's website and get the pdf accompaniment to the video and see all sources used.

your statements arent

[Böltster]

The video is backed by research. You can go on the film maker's website and get the pdf accompaniment to the video and see all sources used.

the video is, your interpretation isn't

again, this is all fine in theory. you can't say that this would all be successful in application.

[Daedalus]

the video is, your interpretation isn't

again, this is all fine in theory. you can't say that this would all be successful in application.

+1

[Sunny]

unemployment is rising for three reasons

1. Outsourcing manufacturing to other countries
2. Mechanization of the workforce
3. Complacency of the people


none of them having to do with whatever the forget you're on about

the credit system is failing because nobody understands the concept of not spending money if you dont have any. its a basic concept that apparently grown adults can't seem to wrap their heads around. when said adults finally bite off more than they can chew, the govt sweeps in and pays off their debts, primarily because said adults control the finances of thousands of other adults in the country, and not paying them off will lead to another great depression



learn your stuff son
your statements arent

You have no reason to be harsh, first of all. Second of all, you didn't watch the video, you are not supposed to post if you haven't.

You are misinformed on many of the statements you just said. The mechanization of the workforce is exactly what I said, "automation of labor" is a synonym. So it was what I was talking about.

Also, you said "the credit system is failing because nobody understands the concept of not spending money if you don't have any." All money spent is money created out of thin air when it is printed. Furthermore, interest is charged on all loans, which you need to, in turn, print more money to pay off.

My statements are backed by research. This video is a secondary source, so I haven't used primary sources, no, but I'm not pulling anything out of my ass.

[Sunny]

the video is, your interpretation isn't

again, this is all fine in theory. you can't say that this would all be successful in application.

My interpretation is in line with the video. Of course it wouldn't be successful if you kept saying so, along with everybody else. It can only be successful if each of us stop nay-saying like you are and get on board.

[Daedalus]

It can only be successful if each of us stop nay-saying like you are and get on board.

you mean nay-saying like everyone else here?
get on board with logic, kid.

[Sunny]

you mean nay-saying like everyone else here?
get on board with logic, kid.

Forum Rules
7. Do not flame - If the entire point of your post is to tell someone what an idiot they are, don't bother.

Although it was mild, you have absolutely nothing to contribute to the discussion with that statement.

[Böltster]

My interpretation is in line with the video. Of course it wouldn't be successful if you kept saying so, along with everybody else. It can only be successful if each of us stop nay-saying like you are and get on board.

lol, this is exactly what i meant by

it's always funny watching people who have just seen videos like this act like they're a reformed philosophical person who has 'seen the light'

it all turns to stuff when they try and apply it to the real world

i'm sure communism would work if all the naysayers "got on board". Genicide would work if all the naysayers "got on board". oh wait, anything would work if there was no opposition. The fact that there is opposition and criticism means that there might be problems with the theory, not that everyone that disagrees are nasty naysayers. people like you ruin causes like this.

Forum Rules
7. Do not flame - If the entire point of your post is to tell someone what an idiot they are, don't bother.

Although it was mild, you have absolutely nothing to contribute to the discussion with that statement.

oh shutup lol.

[Daedalus]

Forum Rules
7. Do not flame - If the entire point of your post is to tell someone what an idiot they are, don't bother.

Although it was mild, you have absolutely nothing to contribute to the discussion with that statement.

you completely misinterpreted my post. I suppose I was stupid to overestimate your logistic abilities.
what I MEANT by that, had you taken the time to think about what I was saying, is that YOU are the minority in this situation. if you had no opposition, of course it would work. everyone else is not going to stop nay-saying just because some person came in and told us to.

[Sunny]

lol, this is exactly what i meant by
i'm sure communism would work if all the naysayers "got on board". Genicide would work if all the naysayers "got on board". oh wait, anything would work if there was no opposition. The fact that there is opposition and criticism means that there might be problems with the theory, not that everyone that disagrees are nasty naysayers. people like you ruin causes like this.

Communism uses labor, money, leaders, and giving up of resources. Genocide is agreeably wrong. You gave no opposition to the idea, in case you didn't notice, you just said it would be impossible to implement.

"people like you ruin causes like this."

Are you okay?

[Sunny]

you completely misinterpreted my post. I suppose I was stupid to overestimate your logistic abilities.
what I MEANT by that, had you taken the time to think about what I was saying, is that YOU are the minority in this situation. if you had no opposition, of course it would work. everyone else is not going to stop nay-saying just because some person came in and told us to.

Yes I misunderstood. It is part your fault for not wording it clearly. You two need to seriously calm down right now and speak maturely while expressing your opinions are arguments. Majority and minority doesn't matter; if you agree the society is a good idea but you don't think it will happen then why don't you simply stop saying it won't happen if you think it's a good idea.