WWIII - Pending - North Korea

[Thar]

you must obviously not understand the basic concept of what I meant
the united states is well known for its temperamental military and its blood lusted love for warfare
world war two was an actual "war" by terms of now
clashing of two opposing sides that brought arms neck high for intimidation

the cold war, however
was a series of black ops (not trying to make a cod joke) and threats that were never carried out
it was an arms race, essentially
not a war.
an arms race.
we gave each other cold stares and cold shoulders in place of where battles would've erupted
the united states only "won" because the soviet union killed itself and we were just on the other end
we didn't do jack stuff
we just sat there as it crumpled up and died
if it weren't for the misinterpretation of nikita at the un conference (we will bury you), the cold war would never had happened

:)

Umm the Cold War was an arms race but also a series of wars and police actions (vietnam, Latin America, Korea) it was two super powers pulling strings in order to gain the upper hand over the other.

Oh god lol, stop calling america bloodthirsty. in no way are we bloodthirsty. now there are certain individuals who are forgeted up idiots who have a lust for warefare, but i'm tired of ignorant forgets who randomly bash the U.S. military because of stuffty reasons like this.

The United States thrives off of war and there are several reasons why, primarily because the United States is the world's sole superpower. In order to maintain this, the United States has to view the globe as a stage, keeping in balance the geopolitical spheres of countries. Its also beneficial for the United States to enter wars, regardless of legality or not (see Iraq). It props up a failing economic system with a lot of goods the government buys, gives people jobs in arms industries, and we send the arms overseas and blow them up. Plus it gives companies a chance to invest in the nation to make profits.

Honestly, war is good for the United States.

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[Planr]

Everything I've ever seen on there is extremely biased and pre-pared

again, can you explain how? you're still not providing me with a real reason besides your own personal opinions

They have their own agenda that blatantly gets in the way. They don't tell the real story.

any examples of this that you would care to provide of this so-called 'agenda' and the 'real story'...?

Have you seen the recent stuff about Julian Assange? All American media is bitching about him, saying he is a "traitor" (not sure how that works since he isn't American) and a, quote "Russian spy" end quote. Its ridiculous and stupid.

Julian assange's "wikileaks" website reveals government secrets and military information that is supposed to remain confidential. the information he puts public about our military allows enemy terrorists to learn more and more about how to fight the US military so that they can kill more of our citizens. how is that not bad?

[Jairo]

Umm the Cold War was an arms race but also a series of wars and police actions (vietnam, Latin America, Korea) it was two super powers pulling strings in order to gain the upper hand over the other.

we lost in vietnam
korea actually hasn't ended (it's only a very long ceasefire; no actual documents were signed to signify the end)
latin america is so so

Honestly, war is good for the United States.

tl;dr of my entire spiel is this

[bithead9]

we gave each other cold stares

Nixon Stare combo X4

[Thar]

we lost in vietnam
korea actually hasn't ended (it's only a very long ceasefire; no actual documents were signed to signify the end)
latin america is so so
tl;dr of my entire spiel is this

Each of these is a slightly different situation but for the most part, all that mattered was keeping the Soviets contained. They were bound to fall due to their economic handicap and the fact that much of their population was suffering from Communism. The United States, never directly occupied other states, and we had a much more efficient economic system that spurred growth and innovation at the time. Plus we were very economically powerful due to the access to both two major oceans in order to conduct trade.

But yeah i pretty much agree with you.

[Sheath]

again, can you explain how? you're still not providing me with a real reason besides your own personal opinions

Please don't be as ridiculous to suggest I must list every single instance where I've been disgusted with Fox news or what I'm saying isn't legitimate. Making up a set of impossible conditions is the ultimate fallacy.

Julian assange's "wikileaks" website reveals government secrets and military information that is supposed to remain confidential. the information he puts public about our military allows enemy terrorists to learn more and more about how to fight the US military so that they can kill more of our citizens. how is that not bad?

Terrorists this terrorists that. Your government uses that excuse for everything.

What he did was great in my opinion. Its the ultimate jab to freedom of information. But no, "free" and "democracy rich" America doesn't like it as it has implications for them. One guy on a show said he should be "illegally shot"-- what an American stereotype.

[Lord Tony³]

We could use another World War. The technology increased from WW1 to WW2. It's amazing how much faster we develop technology when we are in a war.

[Tonkka]

Thank god i live in Finland.

[John Freeman]

I was referring to every story ever.

Aliens attack New York, the Russians attacked New York in MW3, etcetera etcetera

Don't forget Battlefield 3

[SeventhSandwich]

We could use another World War. The technology increased from WW1 to WW2. It's amazing how much faster we develop technology when we are in a war.

That isn't a valid reason.

[superslayer]

What i think will happen if North Korea attacks us: No more north Korea. We have more nukes, missiles, allies, power, bigger army, better army, better supplies, training. North Korea will be nothing but craters and radiation.

[Sheath]

I thought North Korea has it out for South.

Why are you making this about America just because they have been trying to be the face of the anti-nuclear weapons incentive?

[fred da kiko]

all the first world countries will occupy north korea, or just let south korea take over.

[Daedalus]

>Fox News

[comr4de]

Alright time to set some stuff straight

the United States has probably the best national missile defense program in the world. However, this system is not designed to stop all incoming missiles. In fact, the launchers and laser systems are based almost entirely around major cities and military bases, and meant to minimize damage from a strategic first strike.

The North Korean military is lagging behind western standards by about 20 years, and that's the CIA's best guess atm. Any invasion made by north korea into the south would be almost immediately repulsed, with the counterattack probably resembling the korean war all over again. That is where this possible WW3 could come about, not from north korea but the political fallout of a nation committing economic and diplomatic Self Delete.

edit: and then china entering the war under the pretense of protecting her borders. After that it would just be a matter of everyone taking sides.

Obama hasn't killed any programs or funding to the military. Congress controls the national budget, take it up with them. IIRC Obama has actually tried increasing funding before but I don't remember where I read that.

WW3 would likely leave us in an advantageous position to the one we have now. A war with a clear-cut, defined enemy (none of this al-queda mountain man bullstuff) would generate manufacturing jobs and probably kickstart the economy (see: world war 2).

I don't know why everyone is so convinced the missile failed. I haven't seen any footage of the launch and subsequent destruction, but has anyone taken into consideration that there is at least one patriot missile battery deployed in south korea? It would not surprise me in the least if the US shot it down as a propaganda victory for the west, and turned around and claimed North Korean ineptitude led to its failure.