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I used to think f1.8 was good... And then I looked at my pictures.

..what?

Huge amount of pageloss

Also,


« Last Edit: July 25, 2012, 06:19:20 PM by LeetZero »

f1.8: That f-stop where nothing is in focus.

f1.8: That f-stop where nothing is in focus.
That's the point.

There's no point with f1.8, it would be dulled.

OH LAWDY

There's no point with f1.8, it would be dulled.

OH LAWDY
Ya man, 50mm f/1.2 lenses going for $600.

Those really suck.

o god why are you getting a $500+ lens if you can't answer this question yourself.
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Sirrus, mostly reassuring myself. I wasn't a 100% sure, but I was quite sure. I'm not that new to this anymore, but I didn't think it would hurt to make sure.

Ya man, 50mm f/1.2 lenses going for $600.

Those really suck.
see this confuses me I get that less is in focus at lower apertures, but why are prime lenses so nice at f/1.4 and stuff, if they are truly sharp at f/2 why would you want the f/1.4, for just in case you need to take a picture in the dark, and don't care about focus? That seems a bit ridiculous.

see this confuses me I get that less is in focus at lower apertures, but why are prime lenses so nice at f/1.4 and stuff, if they are truly sharp at f/2 why would you want the f/1.4, for just in case you need to take a picture in the dark, and don't care about focus? That seems a bit ridiculous.
The DoF is razor thin and the bokeh is incredible. It's a very desirable effect for portraits, but 1.2 might be a bit overboard for some. 1.4 is typically what pros will shoot at, and (this is speculation on my end) because the lenses are harder to manufacture (on a 50 1.2 vs a 50 1.8 the aperture itself is 1.5x as large, so a typical 27.7mm aperture on a 50/1.8 now needs to open to 47.55mm), better quality glass is used in the manufacturing. This leads to all around better pictures, even in natural light.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/brianreiter/934619415/lightbox/

Again, this effect isn't always desirable, and as strange as it seems you need to work harder to control what's going on in the background if it's thoroughly bokeh-fied. Her sister in that shot would look a little less ridiculous if she were less blurred. They don't need to be both in focus, but if her sister were a bit more in focus that shot would look better, imo.

All in all, for portraits especially, you want to have phat bokeh to get good looking pictures.

And, the more light you let in, the... nicer, pictures usually end up looking. I'm not entirely sure why, but under natural light they just end up looking so much nicer at much lower apertures.

Sirrus, mostly reassuring myself. I wasn't a 100% sure, but I was quite sure. I'm not that new to this anymore, but I didn't think it would hurt to make sure.

I suppose so.

f/1.2 is for soccer moms, real pros shoot with f/0.33. (pic related it's my walk around lens)





Basically, I would recommend getting middle of the road glass for a cropped sensor, look into Tamron or Sigma stuff, and you can still get full frame lenses for that that'll work if you ever do upgrade, but I wouldn't recommend buying Nikkor stuff unless you're actually doing professional work and making money off that. Same with a full frame body, really. There's no reason to get one if you're just going to be doing leisure photography. I mean, of course there's reasons to get one, but it's hard to justify the cost if you're not working with high end flash units, in challenging lighting situations, needing to get really quality bokeh, etc.
But pro lenses are a much better investment overall. Midranged lenses have almost no resale value. I'm assuming it's not duke 838's own money he's spending, so the sad truth is he can waste as much of his dad's money on glass as long as he doesn't feel guilty about it. And if he does give up photography in a year he would be able to sell better lenses and get a good amount of money back. If he keeps doing photography, pro lenses will literally last him a lifetime.

That being said, you are right about him being a beginner and pro lenses are overkill for what he actually needs. (even though you actually need decent glass for the D5100's 16 MP sensor). Maybe the DX VR II 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G would be a good starter lens. It has mediocre optically quality, it is slow (at least it has VR), but it covers a large focal length range. Even if he does get nicer lenses down the road, it will still be a useful lens for the times he can only take one lens with him.
« Last Edit: July 26, 2012, 02:46:47 AM by Tammy »


f/1.2 is for soccer moms, real pros shoot with f/0.33. (pic related it's my walk around lens)




But pro lenses are a much better investment overall. Midranged lenses have almost no resale value. I'm assuming it's not duke 838's own money he's spending, so the sad truth is he can waste as much of his dad's money on glass as long as he doesn't feel guilty about it. And if he does give up photography in a year he would be able to sell better lenses and get a good amount of money back. If he keeps doing photography, pro lenses will literally last him a lifetime.

That being said, you are right about him being a beginner and pro lenses are overkill for what he actually needs. (even though you actually need decent glass for the D5100's 16 MP sensor). Maybe the DX VR II 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G would be a good starter lens. It has mediocre optically quality, it is slow (at least it has VR), but it covers a large focal length range. Even if he does get nicer lenses down the road, it will still be a useful lens for the times he can only take one lens with him.
Not my money at all, and I have no guilt in spending tons of it. I want to make sure I get nice glass because sure it is an overkill for me now, but when I get more capable it will be nice to have that. Also I think this is something I am going to stick with, but lets say I do want to quit sometime down the road, good glass can always be sold. I really do plan on the overall investment more than the short term. I don't want to throw $400, $500 on a lens that I would never even want to touch again after I improved, and bought nice glass.

Those are some amazing cat photos, Leetzero.

Those are some amazing cat photos, Leetzero.

Then have a bigger kitty.

http://www.deviantart.com/download/304557729/hello_kitty_by_leetzero-d51bq8x.jpg

Also did you see my others from the previous page?

Not my money at all

:|

Sorry, I was giving advice from the mindset of being fiscally responsible/independent. And don't say "I'm only 16 lolol", because I essentially took an oath of poverty for half a summer while working 40 hour weeks to buy my camera when I was 16.

:|

Sorry, I was giving advice from the mindset of being fiscally responsible/independent. And don't say "I'm only 16 lolol", because I essentially took an oath of poverty for half a summer while working 40 hour weeks to buy my camera when I was 16.
I wouldn't say "I'm 16 lolol therefor can't make own money" I could if it was needed, and probably would if it was needed, but it is not.